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Re: Amazon Prime Music

#81
Note that this only applies to US Amazon Prime accounts.

If you are an Amazon Prime customer in another region, Amazon will ignore that and ask you to start another Amazon Prime subscription. But I doubt your second Prime account will actually come with any of the advertised benefits.

Which, for an international company with accurate knowledge of my billing address, is misleading and hamfisted.

Re: Amazon Prime Music

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post #81

Note that this only applies to US Amazon Prime accounts. If you are an Amazon Prime customer in another region, Amazon will ignore that and ask you to start another Amazon Prime subscription. But I doubt your second Prime account will actually come with any of the advertised benefits. Which, for an international company with accurate knowledge of my billing address, is misleading and hamfisted.

Got surprised as well to see that they were proposing me subscribe to Prime when I have been a Prime member for more than a year. Realised that I was on the US website, and the music streaming does not seem to be accessible for UK customers.

Re: Amazon Prime Music

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1 million songs don't sound like a lot; the total number of original songs is something around 20 millions, so 1M Besides, how do they decide what's free as prime and what isn't? My songs aren't free to stream for example http://www.amazon.com/Bambax/dp/B00KB5NT6G/ but I wouldn't mind if they were; how do I opt in? Edit: not 0.5 but 5%!

Where did you get the 20 million figure from? It seems very low. I mean, there are millions of apps on the Apple AppStore. Surely, after decades of creation, there must be tens of millions of albums, and an order of magnitude more songs?

Until extremely recently, it's been near impossible to get people to listen to your album without it being in a store. These stores have traditionally had gatekeepers in the form of record labels. It doesn't seem that low if the question is "how many songs have been written under record labels which have access to the stores".

Re: Amazon Prime Music

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1. Given my listening habits, the library feels limited. Tried searches for the three albums I listened to the most this month ( http://www.last.fm/user/labibrahman/charts ): Sylvan Esso - Sylvan Esso Chet Faker - Built on Glass Tycho - Awake None are available for streaming. For a standalone service, this would be damning. As one of the perks offered with Prime this has the potential to become a compelling part of t…

Also no subtitle support.

But it does remember what episode you are on, the ones that are bold are ones you haven't seent.

Re: Amazon Prime Music

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Next episodes don't auto play. There are actually some very strict legal requirements preventing streaming-video services from providing "linear content" (i.e. anything that works like a TV channel.) Anyone that seems to do so (e.g. Netflix) still stops every few episodes to get you to press a button to continue. Happily, this is entirely irrelevant to within-home streaming. Plex can auto-play for as long as you li…

I've worked in the online video streaming industry and I've never heard of such a restriction. I have heard of such restrictions for music streaming, however. (i.e. to be a "radio" service, a.la Pandora, you cannot have a predictable linear playlist). Even if you have "auto-play", this is vastly different than the "scheduled content" of traditional TV. Netflix stops every few episodes because there are per-stream cos…

I have created plenty of playlists w/ Spotify that are very predictable and I often play them in a linear fashion.

I've done the same w/ YouTube, but since they have such a wide array of disappearing content; they playlists aren't very predictable in the long-term.

Re: Amazon Prime Music

#86

The UX for this is very awkward (unless I'm missing something) - the "store" and the "player" are completely disjoint experiences with only a few marketing links between them. You can't actually add new (free) "Prime Music" to your collection from the player - you have to jump to the "store" to discover the music you want and add it to your cloud library. Nor can you play full songs from the "store", even if you have…

It is no better than their Amazon Instant Video. Their video offering is pretty terrible. Takes ages to move between menus. You cannot just continue from where you were previously. It doesn't skip the credits and offer the next episode. The whole thing is painful to use compared to Netflix.

Another example. Yesterday I was looking for a TV show I was watching. I went into "Your TV Shows" and it wasn't there. It had been pushed out by other shows I watched. Instead it appeared in "Recently Watched." It is so unintuitive.

I have a prime account. I wouldn't mind cancelling Netflix and Spotify but can't while the user experience offered by Amazon is so horrible.

Re: Amazon Prime Music

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post #39

1. Given my listening habits, the library feels limited. Tried searches for the three albums I listened to the most this month ( http://www.last.fm/user/labibrahman/charts ): Sylvan Esso - Sylvan Esso Chet Faker - Built on Glass Tycho - Awake None are available for streaming. For a standalone service, this would be damning. As one of the perks offered with Prime this has the potential to become a compelling part of t…

1 million songs don't sound like a lot; the total number of original songs is something around 20 millions, so 1M Besides, how do they decide what's free as prime and what isn't? My songs aren't free to stream for example http://www.amazon.com/Bambax/dp/B00KB5NT6G/ but I wouldn't mind if they were; how do I opt in? Edit: not 0.5 but 5%!

Gracenote claims to have more than 130 millions of songs in his database.

Source: meta field "description" at https://www.gracenote.com/company/faq/

Re: Amazon Prime Music

#88
post #73

Isn't anyone interested in owning their music anymore? Have we all become such casual consumers of music that the concept of building a permanent library of music they like is unnecessary? I will never understand the appeal of subscription music services.

Well, I don't really "own" my music in a legal sense, although I do own some licenses to music as well as some plastic discs and flash chips that store digital copies of music. I do have the same intuition that you do that subscription music services are unsatisfying, but I think the line is starting to blur. I use iTunes almost exclusively as my music library, through iTunes Match and my own iTunes purchases. Other…

I pay deezer 6$/month and can download the tracks on my flash drive or stream. The library is large enough that I never missed a song.

Re: Amazon Prime Music

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post #59

The classical collection seems to be small. For example, 24098 out of 658027 (3.7%) pop albums are prime, but only 894 of 171251 (0.5%) classical albums are prime. I expected the other way (wishfully, as a fan of classical music), that older less popular music is cheaper to be made prime for Amazon. Strange.

Isn't the classical also cheaper to license?

Not sure. The consumers of it are generally wealthier so it has always been a "premium" market, even if smaller. The fact that much of it is out of copyright doesnt mean you dont have to pay performance rights...

Re: Amazon Prime Music

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post #66
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1 million songs don't sound like a lot; the total number of original songs is something around 20 millions, so 1M Besides, how do they decide what's free as prime and what isn't? My songs aren't free to stream for example http://www.amazon.com/Bambax/dp/B00KB5NT6G/ but I wouldn't mind if they were; how do I opt in? Edit: not 0.5 but 5%!

18 million on Spotify/Rdio (5 months ago). "Over 37 million" on the itunes store (per apple's website).

Note: The 18MM on Spotify aren't all available to you. They count all songs in their catalog, and many are limited to specific regions (e.g. Europe-only).

I suspect the same is true for iTunes (but I'm not sure)

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