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Apple Introduces iOS 8

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Re: Apple Introduces iOS 8

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Post by unphasable »

cheeseprocedure wrote: post #80
jwcrux wrote: post #52

I'm personally excited about the possibility of creating an "Emergency Card" ( http://www.apple.com/ios/ios8/health/ ) that's accessible from the lock screen. Currently, I use a screen-shotted contact screen as my wallpaper for my ICE contact - just in case the worst were to happen. This will let me put more information, and might even let me have a wallpaper again!

Wouldn't it be more sensible to just carry that information in hard copy? If you're hit by a car and your phone is smashed...

Why not both?

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Post by jasonpbecker »

dirkgently wrote: post #35
untog wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? The intends system of Android is amazing, and I use it heavily. It was absolutely a blocker for me switching to iOS.

Yes, Android intends are great, and that's why I was surprised when I read "this extensibility stuff might be enough to tempt me back to Apple from Android". What I meant to ask was, what do you mean by "enough"? Does this mean that: 1. iphone/ios/Apple suddenly provides better extendibility? 2. Would you be able to, say, open a link to any browser of your choice in iphone? If any of the above answers is "no", then,…

On 1, better than iOS was. Not sure if you mean better than Android, in which case, that remains to be seen. But the target should be "good enough".

On 2, third-party apps have long supported opening in a different app. Of course, it's up to that developer to include the x-callback-url and Apple apps won't use that preference.

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Post by the_watcher »

Lx1oG-AWb6h_ZG0 wrote: post #68
the_watcher wrote: post #59

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I don't understand why every single keyboard on mobile doesn't have the .COM button. It's basically become as ubiquitous as any punctuation mark given how often emails are typed.

IIRC, this is exactly what happens for html5 forms: the default keyboards on ios/android/wp do display the "@"/".com"/".net" buttons next to the space bar depending on the input type.

Yea, every time a keyboard does this I am pleased. Not sure why it's not a default.

Re: Apple Introduces iOS 8

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Post by RivieraKid »

"Huge for developers. Massive for everyone else."

"Completely new. Completely Mac."

I find meaningless slogans like these really disgusting and annoying. And it's not just Apple, every second startup does this.

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Post by Karunamon »

BugBrother wrote: post #74
criley2 wrote: post #51

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Please look past the hype, malware on phones is a near non-issue. Need I remind you that it was iOS devices being hijacked by hackers, not Android devices? Claims like "99% of malware exist on Android" didn't prevent Apple users across the west from having their devices hijacked for ransom. And no, Apple isn't threatened by the "competition". I'm just saying: from the perspective of a tech-forward developer who spend…

I reluctantly don't jailbreak my iPhone/iPad despite that I of course want shell, emacs, Perl, etc on all my devices. This is because I want to feel safe with my i.* things while using my bank applications and buying stuff from iTunes.

I'm unclear how jailbreaking impacts your device security in a meaningful fashion. All it does is give you the possibility to install something that could cause you trouble, but absolutely nothing on its own.

Most of the jailbreak apps are open source anyways. (MobileSubstrate and the majority of things that use them, for instance)

Pointing at any kind of positive to the locked-down-ness that Apple strives for, regardless of its truth, personally makes me feel very wrong as someone who values openness.

Edit: I love how asking a question is grounds for being downvoted into the negatives now.

Re: Apple Introduces iOS 8

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Post by dirkgently »

threeseed wrote: post #45
dirkgently wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, Android intends are great, and that's why I was surprised when I read "this extensibility stuff might be enough to tempt me back to Apple from Android". What I meant to ask was, what do you mean by "enough"? Does this mean that: 1. iphone/ios/Apple suddenly provides better extendibility? 2. Would you be able to, say, open a link to any browser of your choice in iphone? If any of the above answers is "no", then,…

It came across as being sarcastic hence the down votes. And yes iOS8 does provide better extensibility than it did before and yes you would be able to open content in alternative browsers. Not sure about apps like Mail however.

I am fine with the downvotes. It's pretty easy on any Apple/Android/iOS/Google thread.

> And yes iOS8 does provide better extensibility than it did before

That wasn't my point. I asked specifically if iOS provides better extendibility than _Android_ (as the OP seemed to infer by stating his move back to iOS for that reason alone).

> not sure about apps like Mail however.

That's the point. Browser was just an example. Extendibility of a system does not mean in one or two places.

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Post by bztzt »

daigoba66 wrote: post #9
sz4kerto wrote: post #8

There are two big things here: Health: it's stepping on the toes of many partners, but might be groundbreaking. It's extremely hard to crack healtcare, it's very closed, defensive system of people and bureaucracy, Apple might just have the power to do it. Extensibility: intents are basically _the_ reason Android can work so much better in many cases than iOS. I hope MS will bring it to WP very soon.

Per Microsoft: "App contracts and extensions" have existed since day one: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh46490... Per Healthcare: that is a really exciting new feature and there is a LOT of potential here. But I wonder how successful it can actually be in the grand scheme of things. I.e. not everyone can have or wants an iPhone. Edit, expanding a bit: On the flip side, I am huge advocate for p…

since day one of Windows 8 on tablet/PC, but it wasn't brought to the phone until 8.1.

Re: Apple Introduces iOS 8

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Post by nachteilig »

It wasn't made clear in the keynote and the page doesn't mention it--I hope this includes sharing contacts with "Family Sharing". That'll be huge for helping my older family members keep a coherent address book.

Re: Apple Introduces iOS 8

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Post by ceejayoz »

Karunamon wrote: post #86
BugBrother wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I reluctantly don't jailbreak my iPhone/iPad despite that I of course want shell, emacs, Perl, etc on all my devices. This is because I want to feel safe with my i.* things while using my bank applications and buying stuff from iTunes.

I'm unclear how jailbreaking impacts your device security in a meaningful fashion. All it does is give you the possibility to install something that could cause you trouble, but absolutely nothing on its own. Most of the jailbreak apps are open source anyways. (MobileSubstrate and the majority of things that use them, for instance) Pointing at any kind of positive to the locked-down-ness that Apple strives for, regar…

It removes the sandboxing that would prevent a seemingly innocuous app from silently accessing stuff it shouldn't.
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