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Re: US man finds lost mother in an isolated Amazon tribe

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Post by shutupalready »

phpnode wrote: post #15
[deleted] wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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no one can downvote submissions, regardless of karma. The reason this is on the front page is that at time of writing, 32 people found it interesting enough to vote up. If you don't like the article, don't read it. Your post is not useful to anyone.

> no one can downvote submissions, regardless of karma

Why is that? What's the logic of allowing downvotes on comments but not on articles.

(My question has no bearing on this particular article, which I found quite interesting.)

Re: US man finds lost mother in an isolated Amazon tribe

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Post by phaus »

fallinghawks wrote: post #78
phaus wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Old men marrying children is common in many parts of the world. There are quite a few shitty people in the world. As much as many of us hate to admit it, there are also quite a few shitty cultures. Any 36 year-old man, from any culture that has ever existed, that finds it acceptable to marry a 9-12 year old and then start raping her when she's 13 is a piece of shit. Any culture or individual that condones such behav…

> Any 36 year-old man ... that finds it acceptable to marry a 9-12 year old and then start raping her when she's 13 is a piece of shit I would assume she fully expected to have sex with her husband, 13 years old or not. To suggest this was rape, against her will, is a bit preposterous and an incorrect usage of the word. At the same time I find it reprehensible that a 36 year old American, whose culture says underage…

>To suggest this was rape, against her will, is a bit preposterous and an incorrect usage of the word

There are different kinds of rape. It doesn't really matter if a 13 year-old consents. How many 13 year-olds do you know that are mature enough to make such a decision?

Re: US man finds lost mother in an isolated Amazon tribe

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Post by rusabd »

loup-vaillant wrote: post #80

> Once admitted [to the hospital, Yarima] sprung herself out of bed and attempted to give birth by squatting in the corner of the hospital room. That one was probably highlighted to emphasize the weirdness, or scandal, or ick factor, just like the first excerpt. But this is most probably one thing the Yanomami got right, as a simple matter of physiological fact. I have recently learned from my manual therapist that l…

well, giving birth in the bed is relatively new phenomena

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1647027/pdf/amjp...

and this quote is just sick: "If most women viewed pregnancy as a normal, natural event, then the surgeons' services would not be required. If, however, pregnancy was seen as an illness, then their presence might appear more appropriate. "

Re: US man finds lost mother in an isolated Amazon tribe

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

jackmaney wrote: post #59
phaus wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Old men marrying children is common in many parts of the world. There are quite a few shitty people in the world. As much as many of us hate to admit it, there are also quite a few shitty cultures. Any 36 year-old man, from any culture that has ever existed, that finds it acceptable to marry a 9-12 year old and then start raping her when she's 13 is a piece of shit. Any culture or individual that condones such behav…

I couldn't have said it any better, myself. Not all cultures are good. Quite a few of them are, in fact, terrible, and should no longer exist.

Should we really look back on the Roman Empire as just consisting of a bunch of child rapists?

Re: US man finds lost mother in an isolated Amazon tribe

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Post by dang »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #76
deadslow wrote: post #23

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> Let's not fall for a superficial definition of "intellectually interesting". Sure. Can you provide some examples of what's allowed and not allowed then? Because "anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity" actually covers each and every topic in the world. When you exclude one topic, you're actually demeaning people who find that topic interesting.

Topics appropriate to HN include anything that gets enough votes to make the front page. That's it. If you want a purely objective, mathematically computable definition of "intellectually interesting," I wish you good luck in finding it, and I'm sure a lot of people will be very interested if you can manage it. Phpnode is right: most of your posts seem to be complaining about what other people post. You're clearly ge…

> Topics appropriate to HN include anything that gets enough votes to make the front page.

That's definitely not true, as the guidelines make clear. Otherwise the front page would consist of controversy, gossip, and fashion, probably in that order.

HN has always been a blend of community voting and moderation (also variously called "curation", "editing", "censorship", "manipulation", and my favorite, "thinly veiled aggression") based on the site's values.

Re: US man finds lost mother in an isolated Amazon tribe

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Post by parasitius »

phaus wrote: post #82
fallinghawks wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Any 36 year-old man ... that finds it acceptable to marry a 9-12 year old and then start raping her when she's 13 is a piece of shit I would assume she fully expected to have sex with her husband, 13 years old or not. To suggest this was rape, against her will, is a bit preposterous and an incorrect usage of the word. At the same time I find it reprehensible that a 36 year old American, whose culture says underage…

>To suggest this was rape, against her will, is a bit preposterous and an incorrect usage of the word There are different kinds of rape. It doesn't really matter if a 13 year-old consents. How many 13 year-olds do you know that are mature enough to make such a decision?

Jesus unholy Christ, how many Yanomami 13 year olds do you even know? let me guess. NONE

Go look up research on how long adolescence has been extended in the past few hundred years - now in the past 20 they're saying it has extended into the 20s. Suppose that makes most of us rapists.

Re: US man finds lost mother in an isolated Amazon tribe

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Post by parasitius »

phaus wrote: post #82
fallinghawks wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Any 36 year-old man ... that finds it acceptable to marry a 9-12 year old and then start raping her when she's 13 is a piece of shit I would assume she fully expected to have sex with her husband, 13 years old or not. To suggest this was rape, against her will, is a bit preposterous and an incorrect usage of the word. At the same time I find it reprehensible that a 36 year old American, whose culture says underage…

>To suggest this was rape, against her will, is a bit preposterous and an incorrect usage of the word There are different kinds of rape. It doesn't really matter if a 13 year-old consents. How many 13 year-olds do you know that are mature enough to make such a decision?

Jesus unholy Christ, how many Yanomami 13 year olds do you even know? let me guess. NONE

Go look up research on how long adolescence has been extended in the past few hundred years - now in the past 20 they're saying it has extended into the 20s. Suppose that makes most of us rapists.

Re: US man finds lost mother in an isolated Amazon tribe

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Post by anotherevan »

arjie wrote: post #66

Good grief, both the anthropologists described in the article sound like disagreeable people. The father with all his marrying of a child and then abandoning her, and the other female anthropologist who was mean to the kid.

> the other female anthropologist who was mean to the kid.

Not that I didn't find her behaviour reprehensible, but in the interests of accuracy, she was "the wife of a very prominent anthropologist."

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