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So long, and thanks for all the fish

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Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish

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Downvoted the best comment? That does it. I am going to start at the bottom of the comments from now on. :)

It is a stupid comment, without much content. Like the other reply, even if I agree, this is no way to say it. Our announcement is essentially saying the same thing, but elaborating to add information.

I thought it added levity and gave a gentle ribbing (did you think it was harsh?) {shrug}... I've said the same thing when my own startups closed.

Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish

#82
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I'm sorry to hear it you guys; best of luck with your next venture!

Their efforts might have borne more fruit if I could have actually paid for the tips I owed. Every time I clicked on a link to pay them, I'd get an unhelpful error message along the lines of "The cash-out feature is temporarily down for maintenance." This situation either lasted for a couple of weeks, or was broken all three times I tried over that period.

I thought Tipjoy was great in concept, but ultimately they didn't seem to have either the technical or marketing chops to go up against other systems like Amazon's.

Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish

#83

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It is a stupid comment, without much content. Like the other reply, even if I agree, this is no way to say it. Our announcement is essentially saying the same thing, but elaborating to add information.

I thought it added levity and gave a gentle ribbing (did you think it was harsh?) {shrug}... I've said the same thing when my own startups closed.

I'm approaching this from a news.yc community perspective. Feel free to tweet about it :)

Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish

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This is a little meta, but to what extent does the fact that companies die like this prevent adoption of new services? If I had a business, I'd hesitate to make it dependent on or spend a lot of time integrating with some small startup that stands a fair chance of going belly up next year, and as a user I'm not about to do something like, say, spend a lot of time picking my favorite music for some music recommendation site when they might die at any time.

Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish

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Best of luck to Abby & Ivan in their future endeavors It's refreshing to see this communal response to the closing of a startup rather than the typical icy headlines with droves of disconnected commentary...

For sure; it's always sad when these things happen because this community especially knows how hard all these people have worked whether their ideas ultimately panned out in the end or not. A complete 180 from Techcrunch comments where assholes seem to rule.

Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish

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Sad. The thing about "ramen" profitability is there's another level to be achieved after that, which I refer to as "opportunity cost" profitability. It's often much more challenging, and I sense it being an issue in this article.

Actually that's an excellent point that I don't see mentioned enough. Profitability enough to offset opportunity cost - ie, how much you'd be making if you were working in a "real job" - is indeed very hard to reach. Anyone can be "ramen profitable", defining that as say, under $1k a month. In fact, in actual good countries, you don't need to do anything at all to be able to eat. Australia will pay you $1k/month just…

That IS an interesting point-- but if you're being rationale/calculating about this, I think you'd throw in the towel most of the time. As PG says, "Bad shit is coming". There is almost always a time where you say, "I think we're screwed," and a rationale person who rationally say that there was more opportunity elsewhere.

FWIW, I don't think that's the case here.

Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish

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We were advised (in retrospect incorrectly) to be ambiguous and say "raised under $1M" when the amount we raised was actually much less. Our burn rate was slightly higher than most poor grad students, but not _that_ high.

The company hasn’t disclosed the exact amount of the funding, but says that it is just shy of $1 million. that doesn't exactly say under $1 million, its written more like 800-900K

Only by the word "just" which could easily have been inserted by mistake.

"How much did you raise?"

"It's, um, shy of one million dollars."

Reporter writes "Am't raised: just shy of $1M" in notes.

Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish

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I called this one also: http://apps.ycombinator.com/item?id=200025 Another YC company that will soon be going under or losing its founder will be loopt.

Loopt is supposedly profitable in 2009, which means they've had profitable quarters so far. Unless they do something that significantly causes money drain, they'll be able to continue for a long time. Hard to compare to TipJoy when the founders have said they were never pulling profit.

Re: So long, and thanks for all the fish

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post #79

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That entirely depends on how early, right? Advisers can definitely be worth more than a single engineer.

Yep, I think my big trouble is 'can' and 'will'. An engineer, being a full-time employee will come in and kick all sorts of ass, while an advisor may or may not help you make the right decision, make the right connections, etc. Not saying that it isn't good to give your advisors equity but just wondering if you might be better of hiring great engineers and giving them more equity. Probably need personal experience to…

I'm all for giving shares based on performance, not on day 1, both for 'advisors' and 'engineers'.

Prove it, then get rewarded.

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