The CEOs should have gone to jail for this. They literally conspired against honest workers.
Apple, Google to pay $324 million to settle conspiracy lawsuit
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Re: Apple, Google to pay $324 million to settle conspiracy lawsuit
#82I'm very curious about this, and surprised that none of the media articles mention it: Does anybody know where these numbers (both the $324M settlement and the $9B asking price) come from in the first place? Presumably, the plaintiff has hired some experts who've come up with a model that estimates the wages stolen?
$324M ÷ 64,000 employees ÷ 3 comes out to $1,687.50 per employee, which seems very low. (The factor of 3 is to account for the treble damages alluded to in the Reuters article.)
Re: Apple, Google to pay $324 million to settle conspiracy lawsuit
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Being a Google engineer is pretty nice.
Do you really want to work for a company ran by criminals? Why aren't Jonathan Rosemberg and Eric Schmidt in jail? Fuck them and fuck the entire legal team at Google! Disclaimer: I work for Google.
Is this sarcasm or a troll?
If it's neither then I'm confused by your statement that you work for Google yet imply that working for Google is morally wrong.
Re: Apple, Google to pay $324 million to settle conspiracy lawsuit
#84Settlement seems low. Looks like every company involved ended up saving quite a bit of money, after all is said and done, with this little salary racket they had going.
Yeah, pretty terrible outcome. Lawyers get a huge chunk of money for relatively little effort, the actual plaintiffs get like a couple of thousand each, and the companies pay out an amount that is likely far less than the amount they saved by the illegal collusion and is also not sufficiently punitive to impact their future decisions to do similar things.
do the individual plaintiffs have any say, in aggregate? surely there has to be a better way to pursue a class action than this.
Re: Apple, Google to pay $324 million to settle conspiracy lawsuit
#85I'm really getting tired of the slaps on the wrist these giant corporations are getting for their bad behavior. A few years ago Verizon was fined something like $23 million for bilking their customers out of money. That is literally pocket change for a company that size. It didn't punish them one bit.
This is just continuing proof that there is no difference between corporations and the government. One writes the laws and the other passes them. Meanwhile We The People are getting fucked with our pants on.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Almost every time you comment, there's immediately a comment from an active Googler telling everyone how you see things in a completely different way. Google has almost 50,000 employees. Not all of them are intelligent, well-adjusted people. For example, you casually mention here how you must be black listed because you have seen career problems since. I don't think I'm "blacklisted". I've definitely caught inappropr…
I've definitely caught inappropriate communications behind my back, to the point that I've had to pursue litigation and have collected a couple of (small) tortious interference settlements. This is much much bigger issue to any employer than any union-forming issue. An employee who sues is a giant nightmare. (Which I will say right now can be unfair, because it's hard for an outsider to distinguish between the bogus…
An employee willing to sue when the employer steps out of line, seems like exactly the sort of thing that should be protected. Employers should not be allowed to do wrong things. Employers should especially not be allowed to penalize, nor work together to be aware of or penalize, employees that "tend to sue".
Re: Apple, Google to pay $324 million to settle conspiracy lawsuit
#87The settlement will give 3-5K per employee. Hardly anything. I wonder why they settled, instead of going ahead with the trial. I'm totally unsympathetic with these companies, and now they are just getting away literally free.
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Re: Apple, Google to pay $324 million to settle conspiracy lawsuit
#88I'm really getting tired of the slaps on the wrist these giant corporations are getting for their bad behavior. A few years ago Verizon was fined something like $23 million for bilking their customers out of money. That is literally pocket change for a company that size. It didn't punish them one bit. This is just continuing proof that there is no difference between corporations and the government. One writes the law…
You do realize that you could start a corporation if you wanted to?
Re: Apple, Google to pay $324 million to settle conspiracy lawsuit
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please post using your full name if you are going to make direct personal attacks at a named individual. It's very hard to take comments like this seriously.
posts about his autoadmit and carleton adventures: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=306628 http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2372636 wikipedia sockpuppets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Isomorphic/Minions_of_the_... blatant sockpuppetry on quora: http://qr.ae/rPxvn http://qr.ae/rPxCq his obsessive anti-google and anti-startup posting on hackernews speaks for itself.
I don't know what autoadmit is all about, but it seems like a juvenile, abusive, bullying community. Why do you care enough to have these links on hand?
Re: Apple, Google to pay $324 million to settle conspiracy lawsuit
#90So what is that, like $2k per employee per year of the conspiracy? Sounds like they've learned their lesson, and the lesson is "go ahead and do it again, nobody will stop you."
Yes this is more like a fee or small tax on the bad behavior.
"Bob make sure to budget in 300m for the anti-poaching agreements and get those out to the teams and companies. Run it by the senators + lobbyists so we can get that paid and proceed. We don't want anyone that helped us helping themselves or anyone else in the future." -- said the feudal kings stopping engineers and innovation.