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A Breakup Letter to Facebook from Eat24

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Re: A Breakup Letter to Facebook from Eat24

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Post by InclinedPlane »

maxerickson wrote: post #6
antr wrote: post #2

Every day that goes by I am more convinced that the Twitter stream is the best way to communicate, as a brand and as a consumer. On Twitter, as in Facebook, I follow/like whatever brands I find interesting, engaging and resonate with my believes/interests. If I see that a brand does/say something I don't like, I simply unfollow/unlike. What Facebook is doing is (over)engineering how my relationship with brands/people…

Why do you want to engage with brands? I don't mean that to be antagonistic, I just don't have much understanding of that particular thing.

Customer service actually works on twitter. It seems weird, but it's a thing. Aside from that, "brand" isn't just some faceless megacorp, there are lots of other brands, including creators of all sorts like musicians, web comics, craft beer makers, and so on.

Re: A Breakup Letter to Facebook from Eat24

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Post by froo »

I don't know what the original author is talking about to be honest. When I use Facebook, my feed is filled with friends & family posts and the very occasional ad.

To really put it into perspective, I just opened my Facebook now, first ad is in position 5 in my feed. The next ad popped in at the 52nd item in my feed. I went looking for a third ad.. I decided to stop after the 200th item in my feed and I generally don't scroll down that far in a single sitting.

Sure, there are ads on the side, but I'm more or less blind to those ads because they're always there.

That's not to say it was always like this. Candy Crush ads and whatnot used to pop up all the time from certain people. That's why you can hide those. They quickly disappear.

I guess it must just be cool to dump on Facebook now.

Re: A Breakup Letter to Facebook from Eat24

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Post by prostoalex »

antr wrote: post #2

Every day that goes by I am more convinced that the Twitter stream is the best way to communicate, as a brand and as a consumer. On Twitter, as in Facebook, I follow/like whatever brands I find interesting, engaging and resonate with my believes/interests. If I see that a brand does/say something I don't like, I simply unfollow/unlike. What Facebook is doing is (over)engineering how my relationship with brands/people…

If you bookmark https://www.facebook.com/?sk=h_chr for your starter page, the News Feed will go into "Recent Stories" mode, featuring everybody in reverse chronological order, equivalent of Twitter's feed.

Re: A Breakup Letter to Facebook from Eat24

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Post by SnakeDoc »

I 100% support eat24 in their decision. Facebook is ridiculous now. I requested my "facebook archive" 2 days ago and still have not received my email confirmation with the download link. As soon as I do, I'm deleting my facebook profile as well. Goodbye Facebook. I hoped you would learn from mistakes, but I see you haven't.

Re: A Breakup Letter to Facebook from Eat24

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Post by prostoalex »

techaddict009 wrote: post #38
protomyth wrote: post #36

I have a question on this. Let's say small college puts a post on Facebook like an event, financial aid warning, or a school close announcement. If I read this right, then that post will not be distributed to everyone following the college? In contrast, on Twitter, a post will go to all followers. Is this right?

Yes it 100 Percent right. It will reach to approx 10% of people who have liked the fan page.

Highly dependent on # of friends and # of other pages those recipients follow. A brand new user account following just the university page is 100% guaranteed to receive a posting from the university page, that probability goes down as number of friends or pages increases.

Re: A Breakup Letter to Facebook from Eat24

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Post by prostoalex »

sergiotapia wrote: post #52
frostmatthew wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well you can pay to promote a post so it will have a higher reach. Businesses should be more appreciative of the fact that 5-10% reach for free is far more free reach than you will get with TV, radio, Google ads, or anything else short of putting flyers on telephone poles.

Well, no. I disagree with what you're saying. If I create a page for my business and share coupons and stuff, people are free to come like my page. That means they want to see more of my stuff voluntarily. Why is Facebook extorting money from the business to allow users to see what they want to see?

Because your page is one of the 400 pages the user liked. Some of those pages are hyperactive as far as new content (New York Times, CNN, etc.) How would you prioritize the stories?

Re: A Breakup Letter to Facebook from Eat24

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Post by prostoalex »

sparkzilla wrote: post #69
morgante wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead of resorting to emotion, can you explain a compelling alternative for how Facebook could actually solve this? Yes, you have 4000 fans. But I'm 99% sure you're not the only page they like. They probably like many other pages, and also have many other friends (2 numbers that increase over time). Do you not see how it's literally impossible for every post I'm subscribed to reach me? This is purely a problem of s…

Facebook started to throttle response just over a year ago, well after most people already had all of their friends in their feed, and well after most people had joined most of the pages they like. It's no coincidence that Facebook told me I could get more views by spending money to reach the same people I had been reaching organically just a few weeks before. The solution is to stop trying to extort money from the b…

> Facebook started to throttle response just over a year ago, well after most people already had all of their friends in their feed, and well after most people had joined most of the pages they like.

That's a naive explanation. Is there a day when everybody is supposed to be done with liking pages and vow never to like a page again? Was there a worldwide memo on this?

New quality pages appear all the time - IOC is creating a brand new page for each Olympics, large fashion brands create pages for distinct lines they launch, media promote their journalists' and topic pages in addition to main media pages.

Re: A Breakup Letter to Facebook from Eat24

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Post by jsonne »

robot_head wrote: post #79
jsonne wrote: post #78

I actually kind of feel for facebook. Not even a year ago people were complaining about Facebook not having enough relevant content etc. So they were migrating away. Old facebook was filled with commercial spam and made it a crappy experience. EdgeRank helped with that aspect a lot. Switching hats, this also bothers me though. I'm a marketer for a lot of local businesses through my agency, and obviously this sucks. I…

Nobody paid Google any money to create a following on Google Reader, and then made that following worthless... Not really a fair comparison.

Okay then not google reader. What about the myriad of startups that "pivot" leaving paying customers hanging etc. Frankly too, that was a very small part of my overall point.

Re: A Breakup Letter to Facebook from Eat24

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Post by Irishsteve »

froo wrote: post #83

I don't know what the original author is talking about to be honest. When I use Facebook, my feed is filled with friends & family posts and the very occasional ad. To really put it into perspective, I just opened my Facebook now, first ad is in position 5 in my feed. The next ad popped in at the 52nd item in my feed. I went looking for a third ad.. I decided to stop after the 200th item in my feed and I generally don…

We must be in different buckets. I signing and I see 1 message from a friend followed by 1 ad, 2 sponsored posts and to the right 4 or 5 ad's in the sidebar.
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