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Minecraft creator says he’s canceled talks for Oculus Rift version

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Re: Minecraft creator says he’s canceled talks for Oculus Rift version

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Post by bduerst »

noonespecial wrote: post #63

"And I did not chip in ten grand to seed a first investment round to build value for a Facebook acquisition." I'm guessing that pretty much sums up the reaction of everyone who backed the initial kickstarter. Sounds like a serious lapse of "dance with the one who brung ya" to me.

It blows my mind how much people will throw their money at Kickstarter projects for the simple feeling of goodwill or novelty knick knacks (bumper stickers, buttons, etc).

$10,000 should have bought some small amount of equity, even if it was only non-voting and non-dilutable.

Re: Minecraft creator says he’s canceled talks for Oculus Rift version

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Post by tomelders »

Does anyone have any insight into Occulus' incentive or motive to do this deal?

Edit: beyond the obvious monetary incentive, which I'm not sure was that much of an incentive since hordes of people seemed ready and willing to throw money at the oculus rift. 2 billion sounds like a bargain right now.

Re: Minecraft creator says he’s canceled talks for Oculus Rift version

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Post by benched »

waterlesscloud wrote: post #56
venomsnake wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The backlash is phenomenal. And completely predictable.

And ridiculous.

Yes. All of us who hate this development are irrational. That's the only explanation for this groundswell. I can't think of a single reason to be cynical about Facebook or about this deal.

Re: Minecraft creator says he’s canceled talks for Oculus Rift version

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Post by arcatek »

chris_mahan wrote: post #60
ROFISH wrote: post #18

http://www.polygon.com/2014/3/25/5547584/facebook-buys-oculu... > Mojang's Notch was more direct in a tweet. "We were in talks about maybe bringing a version of Minecraft to Oculus," he said. "I just cancelled that deal. Facebook creeps me out." > We reached out for further comment, and he clarified his position. "Well, VR has huge potential in many fields, including social. I can see why Facebook would want to get i…

The Android version of Minecraft is very nice. Looking forward to more and better. (My son would love more raising sheep/pugs/cattle game options--he's a rancher at heart)

Notch sayed that console versions were almost fully reimplementations rather than portages, so some features will probably go missing for quite a long time.

Re: Minecraft creator says he’s canceled talks for Oculus Rift version

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Post by drcode »

Camillo wrote: post #79
noonespecial wrote: post #63

"And I did not chip in ten grand to seed a first investment round to build value for a Facebook acquisition." I'm guessing that pretty much sums up the reaction of everyone who backed the initial kickstarter. Sounds like a serious lapse of "dance with the one who brung ya" to me.

When I said that it was silly to simply donate money to a commercial venture without gaining any stake in it, they called me a naysayer. Who's saying nay now?

nay

Re: Minecraft creator says he’s canceled talks for Oculus Rift version

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Post by john2x »

asdfologist wrote: post #75
mantrax3 wrote: post #49

Facebook buys WhatsApp - hundreds of thousands creeped out, go to Telegram app. Facebook buys Oculus Rift, Minecraft creator cancels talks, creeped out. Feels like that Facebook brand has taken a hit or two with all the privacy violations, huh?

WhatsApp lost hundreds of thousands of users out of 450 million. Yeah, I bet they're losing sleep every night over that 0.1%.

Still, that's hundreds of thousands the competition didn't have.

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Post by ics »

joshontheweb wrote: post #47
FLUX-YOU wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but what is Carmack going to do with more money? That's the last person I think of in tech who could be motivated by dollar signs.

Armadillo Aerospace ran out of money. Seems like that could be a potential destination for more money.

Link for the lazy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armadillo_Aerospace

Re: Minecraft creator says he’s canceled talks for Oculus Rift version

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Post by noonespecial »

Camillo wrote: post #79
noonespecial wrote: post #63

"And I did not chip in ten grand to seed a first investment round to build value for a Facebook acquisition." I'm guessing that pretty much sums up the reaction of everyone who backed the initial kickstarter. Sounds like a serious lapse of "dance with the one who brung ya" to me.

When I said that it was silly to simply donate money to a commercial venture without gaining any stake in it, they called me a naysayer. Who's saying nay now?

You are quite right, of course. But kickstarter is a brand new animal in the world of products and financing. There aren't any laws or even any concrete social norms around it yet. Perhaps people should "know better' but I'm not sure that's helpful.

In the absence of laws or codified rules we should expect to fall back on manners. What Oculus did feels bad because its rude. At the very least, they should recognize that they are in uncharted territory. A bunch of random strangers gave them gifts because they believed in the vision. If that vision turns into a multi-billion dollar payday, they might consider giving a few gifts back to those kind strangers. Its not like they don't have a list of them all with contact info and everything. It would be polite to do so.

Re: Minecraft creator says he’s canceled talks for Oculus Rift version

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Post by chris_mahan »

arcatek wrote: post #84
chris_mahan wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Android version of Minecraft is very nice. Looking forward to more and better. (My son would love more raising sheep/pugs/cattle game options--he's a rancher at heart)

Notch sayed that console versions were almost fully reimplementations rather than portages, so some features will probably go missing for quite a long time.

I know. I have normal minecraft on my PC. I like the Android version better. It's too boring to make the items in the crafting table on the PC version.

Re: Minecraft creator says he’s canceled talks for Oculus Rift version

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Post by res0nat0r »

skore wrote: post #3

> "Facebook creeps me out." Whether or not you agree with his decision, having Notch pull away from talks with you creates an instant credibility "situation". It's also noteable that Notch had been meeting with the Oculus team just two weeks ago[0], was tweeting about them in rather gushing terms[1] and seemed incredibly inspired to work on VR ideas[2]. He is now the personification of the a near universal feeling of…

I'd rather think of it as an indie developer who got lucky and struck it big making a pixelated block pushing game doesn't like that a VR firm is now part of a social networking company. My thought is good for him for standing up for what he believes in, but he is going to be missing out on some possible awesome to come engineering which previously might have taken years to obtain w/o FB's involvement.

It seems to be ignored but the massive pockets, infrastructure, and engineering at FB will allow Occulus to have access to much much more than they could have achieved previously.

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