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They're people who work in firms that have intranet applications that were written specifically for IE6. Its cheaper to keep the browser than update some very badly written software.
Sorry, that's not an excuse. IE 8 comes with a "compatibility mode" feature where any site can choose to use the IE 6 rendering engine by setting headers or meta tags appropriately.
This is the biggest example I've seen of the network of YC alumni organizing to do something. YC itself didn't organize this or even know about it. I've been looking forward to seeing what this type of network can do that a traditionally hierarchically structured organization can't.
I dunno, Google seems to have beaten them to the punch and no matter their culture, I'd still call them a traditionally hierarchically structured organization
Unfortunately, there are a huge number of corporate environments that have virtually no reason to upgrade their browsing platforms. Many of these environments don't even really have a technical reason to not do the upgrade, they are just administered by overworked staff and upgrading IE6 to something newer and safer is just at the bottom of the list. The bottom line is that until the end users who have to use IE6 eve…
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The Digg survey shows that 70% of IE6 users are corporate, but there's no indication how representative that is of the web as a whole. Either way, this initiative is targeted straight at those users. We've heard from several sources that many corporate IT departments don't feel any need or urgency to upgrade, and receive very few complaints. We see this as a start -- the more complaints the IT department gets (especi…
Unfortunately, IT departments receiving complaints isn't going to do it, unless those complaints are "I can't do my job with IE6 any more"... So you need to hit core web apps for those businesses. If the choice is "we could fix our 78 different custom web apps to work on Firefox" or "we could upgrade to IE8 or FF", the choice is pretty clear for a cash-crunched business with an understaffed IT department. It's a cost…
Also, there's no reason the browser decision has to be binary: custom legacy apps could use IE 6, with Firefox as the main web browser.
BTW: Shoot me an email when you've implemented some kind of notice and I'll throw your logo up!
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Sorry, that's not an excuse. IE 8 comes with a "compatibility mode" feature where any site can choose to use the IE 6 rendering engine by setting headers or meta tags appropriately.
Sorry, that's not an excuse I wasn't aware that companies needed an 'excuse' for not putting time and effort into a project they don't care about.
from the comments: You do realize that a large portion of people that are using IE6 are at work where they have NO control over the browser... i hear this every time the ie6 argument comes up, and yet, i've never heard from someone that actually works in one of these IT departments that can vouch for this. who are these unsympathetic robots who, while ironically working in an IT department, are so out of touch with t…
In addition that that, there is time spent securing the installation. In the case of IE it's a little easier as I can manage it with policies, but it is absolutely critical that we're following DOD stigs regarding security, and setting up a central policy isn't free.
Regarding the PC comment, the laptop I replaced a month ago was a 1.0Ghz Pentium with 512M RAM. This was the upgraded laptop at the time, that I needed for java development. Compiling code with 512M on XP was adventurous. For the last 8 months I had it, the internal LCD had died, most of the keys didn't work, the WiFi radio was completely dead, and the power button would only work if I wiggled the frame and monitor. I made sure to use it on a plugged-in (ethernet network) to bypass the WiFi, plugged into an external monitor to get around the LCD, grabbed an external keyboard to type on, and wiggled it every day to power it on.
Before deeming it dead, they replaced the motherboard 3 times and the hard drive twice. I kept using the decrepit old machine because frankly, it was the nicest laptop anyone had on the team. They're refreshing the machines now, but we've only had IE7 in the environment for about a month. I am lucky in that I can use Firefox, but only within the firewall, and not at all to browse any external sites.
Sorry, I kind of got off on a tangent here, but it's perfectly reasonable to understand that there ARE in fact reasons why it takes a long time to get off of IE6.
could be written as:- Wouldn't be suprised if the same effect could be created in 1/2 the size (pre deflate/gzip).
We've been advocating that all users drop IE6 at http://webs.com/ since December. Are you only listing those who've thrown up your widget?
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The U.S. State Department, however, does.
As of how recent? As far as I know all government machines are running FDCC(Federal Desktop Core Configuration) and the machines I've seen run IE7 with many IT departments recommending Firefox.