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Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

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Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

#82
I'm Russian. These blocked sites are not "Independent News Sites" - these sites are rusophobic and sponsored by foreign countries. On one of these sites for example old woman said that "killing russians is actually good thing". Imagine sites like that in your country.

Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

#83

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And the feminist punk bands, the homosexuals, and the murdered journalists -- how are they doing lately?

Feminist punk bands must be imprisoned right now because of playing shitty punk rock ever. They're real traitors of punk rock :) Homosexuals? Why do you ask Russia about them? Go to Saudi Arabia and ask them how do they feel about that. We have our own vision of healthy society. Murdered journalists - that's a shame, I agree. But you know what? Now it's just a tool in hands of the West. And you use this tool in order…

Does russian propaganda ever change?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes

Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

#84

This is breaking news, so a lot of people who might be expected to comment about this in other press sources have had no opportunity to do so, I suppose. I personally would like to hear what Edward Snowden has to say about this, and I hope the Russian authorities will provide the opportunity for him to comment on Internet freedom in Russia in light of recent events.

How is it even related? It's a tragedy that Showden got stuck in country with illegal dictatorship after exposing constitutional violations in his own country. And it's a tragedy that political dissidents nowadays have to run as far as Equador.

Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

#85
Reporting from the trenches. Here in Moscow all 4 sites from the list [1] are being banned as of this morning.

* ej.ru (assortment of articles by opposition writers)

* kasparov.ru (chess grandmaster and one of the opposition leaders)

* navalny.livejournal.com (possibly most prominent opposition leader as of late; mayor of Moscow candidate in 2013 mayoral election)

* grani.ru (opposition newspaper)

I'd have to agree with said elsewhere in the comments that an average Russian will likely not notice those sites virtual demise. They're not much known or popular outside of a tight opposition camp.

Echo of Moscow is, however, a very popular radio station. Banning their site is likely to cause a little shit storm. It is not banned though and working just fine. What happened is they hosted their own Navalny's blog [2] and this particular URL was banned. However, the banning system is IP based, so along with it all the site would have been blocked. The site admins quickly took down the blog and the ban was lifted.

[1] http://rkn.gov.ru/news/rsoc/news24447.htm

[2] http://www.echo.msk.ru/blog/navalny/

Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

#86

The law, that created internet block list in Russia, was promoted as a measure to stop child pornography: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Restriction_Bill

UK is next. There's no doubt in my mind they will start blocking news sites, blogs and social media in the next mass protest (if there will be one anytime soon, since UK population seems almost as complacent and docile as the American one, which is just perfect for authoritarians).

> since UK population seems almost as complacent and docile as the American one

That is really quite offensive. We have a culture of protest and resistance. What we have at the moment is a paradise of easy living. Despite the depressing lie of what the media will give you with "food banks and poverty" the standard of living for most Britons is really quite good, much better than the 1980s which saw major public political unrest.

People won't take to the streets for internet privacy or other such soft battles you can think of. The political classes will chatter about whatever games they play with each other but people really don't care about such issues.

Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

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It's a good thing the Mongols didn't have modern _state delivered propaganda_, otherwise some real atrocities might have taken place in the areas they conquered.

Or An Lushan. Makes Mao look like a rank amateur. If propaganda is necessary to modern atrocities, what changed to make it so?

Globalization

Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

#88
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You don't get a more impressive list because these are the only remaining sources. The rest are suppressed - by various means. Echo of Moscow could be the last - and might be closed not because it's oppositional but just because it's more balanced than government-influenced media.

What about western media? They could block those China-style...

Language barrier. Nobody would even bother.

Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

#89

Well... I was expecting a more impressive list then these: - www.grani.ru - www.kasparov.ru - www.ej.ru - http://navalny.livejournal.com Not even sure why they bothered to block Kasparov. I have yet to talk to someone who actually lives in Russia and cares about what he has to say. While not a good move, it doesn't quite live up to the EFF headline. This is the official site that lists all blocked sites, but it looks…

There's an unofficial site that lists exact urls and ip addresses that are blocked. Since most providers don't bother with deep packet inspections, they ban resources wholesale.

http://antizapret.info/ --- list

Re: Russia Blocks Access to Major Independent News Sites

#90
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Feminist punk bands must be imprisoned right now because of playing shitty punk rock ever. They're real traitors of punk rock :) Homosexuals? Why do you ask Russia about them? Go to Saudi Arabia and ask them how do they feel about that. We have our own vision of healthy society. Murdered journalists - that's a shame, I agree. But you know what? Now it's just a tool in hands of the West. And you use this tool in order…

Does russian propaganda ever change? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes

Nope. It's kinda sad, really, how the crudest opinion-forming tools still work in 2014.
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