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Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by dalore »

m_mueller wrote: post #79

I like the idea of using Glacier as a Backup solution for ones devices. However one thing worries me: Looking at the Glacier pricing table[1] there is a section 'Request pricing'. This looks to me like there is a price of 5.5 cents per 1000 upload request. Considering Arq will upload multiple times an hour, this looks like it could amount to quite a bit. With two uploads per hour I arrive at 5$ per month, but there c…

2 uploads an hour = 48 uploads a day

48 a day * 31 days a month = 1488 uploads a month

5.5 cents per 1000 uploads

so this would cost roughly 1.5 * 5.5cents, so about $0.0825 a month.

There would be data and storage costs but I'm just going by your upload request calculations.

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by wheelibin »

pudquick wrote: post #62

Can someone using S3 Glacier as a backup destination please provide some concrete costs? Even if no retrieval is involved, I'd just love to see: "I pay $XYZ and am backing up ###GB worth of data." I see the calculator floating around in the comments, but it's not formatted in a backup-friendly fashion / use case (ie. set storage size with XYZ% churn for changed files, or continuously expanding snapshots with aged sna…

I just got my bill for Feb. I am currently storing 15gb, and it cost me $0.21.

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by prof_hobart »

digitalengineer wrote: post #75
jhart3333 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's cheap until you have to grab a bunch of stuff back all at once. Then they have you by the short hairs.

I think if your house/company burned down and you loose yor main PC and the external backup, you'd be glad to pay 0.10 cents for every Gigabyte you can retrieve.

But it's not like S3 and no backup at all are the only two options. There's loads of backup providers (Carbonite, Mozy, Backblaze etc) out there. The comparison needs to be against those.

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by m_mueller »

dalore wrote: post #81
m_mueller wrote: post #79

I like the idea of using Glacier as a Backup solution for ones devices. However one thing worries me: Looking at the Glacier pricing table[1] there is a section 'Request pricing'. This looks to me like there is a price of 5.5 cents per 1000 upload request. Considering Arq will upload multiple times an hour, this looks like it could amount to quite a bit. With two uploads per hour I arrive at 5$ per month, but there c…

2 uploads an hour = 48 uploads a day 48 a day * 31 days a month = 1488 uploads a month 5.5 cents per 1000 uploads so this would cost roughly 1.5 * 5.5cents, so about $0.0825 a month. There would be data and storage costs but I'm just going by your upload request calculations.

damn, I had a factor of 60 in there, for some reason I calculated 2 uploads per minute instead of per hour. Alright then, seems to be a fair price.

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by mietek »

rsc wrote: post #49

I discovered Arq a couple years ago and have been using it ever since. I highly recommend it. The thing that sold me was that the file format is documented and I was able to write code to read the backups directly. So even if somehow Arq does disappear, I can still read my data. http://godoc.org/code.google.com/p/rsc/arq

Is this compatible with the latest version?

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by sreitshamer »

mietek wrote: post #85
rsc wrote: post #49

I discovered Arq a couple years ago and have been using it ever since. I highly recommend it. The thing that sold me was that the file format is documented and I was able to write code to read the backups directly. So even if somehow Arq does disappear, I can still read my data. http://godoc.org/code.google.com/p/rsc/arq

Is this compatible with the latest version?

Mostly. I need to update it a bit. I will ASAP.

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by sreitshamer »

m_mueller wrote: post #79

I like the idea of using Glacier as a Backup solution for ones devices. However one thing worries me: Looking at the Glacier pricing table[1] there is a section 'Request pricing'. This looks to me like there is a price of 5.5 cents per 1000 upload request. Considering Arq will upload multiple times an hour, this looks like it could amount to quite a bit. With two uploads per hour I arrive at 5$ per month, but there c…

The way Arq splits files into chunks (to facilitate incremental backups), it averages $.05/GB in per-request Glacier fees for the initial backup. After the initial backup, per-request fees are typically not significant because it only uploads new/changed files.

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by sreitshamer »

pudquick wrote: post #62

Can someone using S3 Glacier as a backup destination please provide some concrete costs? Even if no retrieval is involved, I'd just love to see: "I pay $XYZ and am backing up ###GB worth of data." I see the calculator floating around in the comments, but it's not formatted in a backup-friendly fashion / use case (ie. set storage size with XYZ% churn for changed files, or continuously expanding snapshots with aged sna…

When you add a folder to Arq (and you're using AWS for a target) it asks whether you want S3 or Glacier and gives a chart of costs: http://www.haystacksoftware.com/storage_type_selection.png

Re: Arq 4 is out – Mac backup to S3/Glacier

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Post by acjohnson55 »

chmars wrote: post #89

BTW, another great product from the same developers have recently become available: It's called Filosync and is like Dropbox but secure and with your own (or with Amazon) servers. Check out http://www.filosync.com/ for more information. And be warned, it's pricey!

My personal solution is to use the free Boxcryptor Classic [1] on top of Dropbox. I've actually replaced my entire Documents folder with a link symlink to its version in my Boxcryptor instance (something I was leery of doing directly in Dropbox, for privacy reasons). So now I get transparent encryption and sync on both of my computers. It's been working amazingly for about 6 months now.

[1] https://www.boxcryptor.com/en/classic

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