Inside the Billion-Dollar Hacker Club • Hacker News Board

Re: Inside the Billion-Dollar Hacker Club

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Post by philsnow » Mon, Mar 03, 2014, 11:07 AM UTC

c23gooey wrote: post #69

atmosx wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hello, I was in two 'crews' as they used to call them in the early 00s. I'm not sure if you would really want join them . I think I prefer my current networking (twitter, github, blogposting, hacker news, stack overflow, etc.) Back at the time, there was no StartUp culture (where I lived, not talking about Silicon Valley), everything was closed and there was a huge debate over full disclosure (I'm not even sure how i…

>Things changed after 2002-3 (you can see this in the Phrack articles, turning suddenly extremely technical). >Then the web-based internet came out, everything start requiring PHP+SQL and XSS was born. Then Java and after that JavaScript... Which created a new, less sophisticated attack vectors. What does that mean? Tim Berners-Lee might like to have a word with you about when the "web-based" internet came out.

"the internet" used to be much more diverse in terms of protocols / tech used. Gopher / Veronica, Archie, USENET, IRC, etc. Lots more text.

Oh, and you used telnet to get to these things, not ssh. SSH didn't become de rigeur until the very late 90s.

This is not to say that the web didn't exist at the time; it did. Webcrawler was useful back in the days of Webrings.

Re: Inside the Billion-Dollar Hacker Club

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Post by mtrimpe » Mon, Mar 03, 2014, 12:49 PM UTC

spindritf wrote: post #9

csl wrote: post #2

As an aside, do anyone here still use IRC regularly? It seems some open source projects have permanent channels, but I don't know how active these are. Haven't really used IRC since the mid-90s, but perhaps it's a good way to connect to other developers? Is there a representative YC channel?

Absolutely. All day, every day. There is no better way to coordinate. Clients for every platform are available. You can have new tickets, bugs, announcements piped into the channel. Discuss everything instantly and in real time, while leaving a log for those who are offline, highlighting them when necessary. Running your own server is perfectly feasible. And if you connect to a known ircd with SSL forced, it's reason…

How do you handle travelling between devices though? I find it virtually impossible to function on IRC with the gaps in between from when I'm offline, but still haven't found a workable way to keep a persistent session going across devices (work, home, mobile.)

Re: Inside the Billion-Dollar Hacker Club

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Post by tptacek » Mon, Mar 03, 2014, 12:50 PM UTC

s7ephen wrote: post #80

tptacek wrote: post #28

2000 words of post-hoc fallacy about an IRC channel. We're discussing here a group of people who started their careers dead smack in the middle of the dot-com bubble, practically all of them in software/network security, a field that has stayed valuable since its inception. Of course they've done well for themselves. This would be interesting if the denizens of #w00w00 had, say, invested in each other's companies. Bu…

Tom, you stuck your neck out here. Those who weren't there will never understand. Everyone who needs to know who's who, already does.. The rest of them can read about halfass explanations on techcrunch

A bad habit of mine.

Re: Inside the Billion-Dollar Hacker Club

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Post by mrspin » Mon, Mar 03, 2014, 6:57 PM UTC

joewee wrote: post #65

1/2 of my full time employment opportunities came from other w00w00 members. I was also a member of ADM. I was 17 and managing servers during the first dotcom boom when you needed more than just smarts to create a startup. You needed a boatload of VC money. If w00w00 was formed in present day, half of us would have been funded by YC. We were just smart and young people at the start of this internet thing. Not surpris…

It was difficult to list everybody.