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Re: New message from Mt. Gox

#81
post #42

I'm one of those who lost a good amount on MtGox. It wasn't in there because I thought they are a bank, I put it there because I like to speculate from time to time. As such I was prepared to lose most if not all of it anyway. I didn't expect things to go wrong so thoroughly, but still that was the premise of my deposits there. So from that perspective, I'm not really mad about them losing the money. It's unfortunate…

How much did you lose on it?

Re: New message from Mt. Gox

#82
post #42

I'm one of those who lost a good amount on MtGox. It wasn't in there because I thought they are a bank, I put it there because I like to speculate from time to time. As such I was prepared to lose most if not all of it anyway. I didn't expect things to go wrong so thoroughly, but still that was the premise of my deposits there. So from that perspective, I'm not really mad about them losing the money. It's unfortunate…

It's not even as simple as a failure to communicate.

It's hard not to conclude that they outright lied. First it was malleability, then it was "we're waiting on bitcoin developers," then it was "we've moved due to protesters and security problems," and now it's "we've closed our site due to recent news reports."

I wonder when precisely they realized that >700,000btc were missing.

Re: New message from Mt. Gox

#83
post #37
post #9

And it doesn't seem to have been proofread very well. "In the event of [something that has already happened]..."? I don't consider myself a particularly picky person, but come on, you could at least make the effort at a time like this.

Panic doesn't lend itself to careful writing.

Well, sure, but it's not like this message was rushed out within minutes of anything in particular. They seemed quite content to have a completely blank site for hours on end before putting this up.

Re: New message from Mt. Gox

#84
post #19
post #10

I would not like to be in the shoes of mtgox CEO... He lost about 400M USD, some of them probably belonging to shady peoples (drug dealer, mobs, etc.)

Well that's what people say, yet I haven't seen lots of executives in large companies where scandals have occurred suddenly getting randomly killed by hitmen in the streets. And Madoff's still alive, too.

There was the Bre-X scandal where a geologist "fell" out of a helicopter and the founder was kidnapped by gunmen (and apparently died later of a brain aneurysm).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bre-X

Re: New message from Mt. Gox

#85
post #42

I'm one of those who lost a good amount on MtGox. It wasn't in there because I thought they are a bank, I put it there because I like to speculate from time to time. As such I was prepared to lose most if not all of it anyway. I didn't expect things to go wrong so thoroughly, but still that was the premise of my deposits there. So from that perspective, I'm not really mad about them losing the money. It's unfortunate…

If they're under investigation by a regulator or a criminal prosector they may be severely legally restricted as to what they can say publicly.

Re: New message from Mt. Gox

#86

So I have n bitcoins and $x in MtGox; will I get this back? Will there be a haircut? Is MtGox winding down? So many questions...

I'm curious about the $x. Seems like getting bitcoins out if it has gone out the window, but since fiat is regulated, wouldn't they be legally required to pay out any fiat their customers have in the system?

I didn't have bitcoins in the system, but I did have a couple hundred dollars. Completely negligible amount and it doesn't really affect me to lose it, but it would be convenient to get it back.

Re: New message from Mt. Gox

#87
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> or at the very least they don't give a crap about anything at all They were the market leader, with substantial revenue and lots of cash flow. Why they didn't prioritize hiring some people and securing their platform is still beyond my understanding. It's up there with the $100+ billion in cash Apple is evidently not using to hire enough code reviewers or implement adequate security processes for their most importa…

> Apple is evidently not using to hire enough code reviewers It's naive to think that the more people you throw at the problem, the less bugs there will be. See also: The Mythical Man-Month.

Catching bugs via parallel support staff not in the primary workflow, or even building automated infrastructure is exactly the kind of parallelism that Brooks diagrams out as within the realm of workable in his team structure diagrams in TMMM.

The intel agencies (both the ones where Apple lives, and all the other ones too) are black box testing this stuff, every single point release, automatically - you can be sure. Why Apple isn't is confusing. They wouldn't even have to be on the team or in the building with the development efforts themselves.

There's something we're missing here.

Re: New message from Mt. Gox

#88
post #18

The current message means absolutely nothing: "Dear MtGox Customers, In the event of recent news reports and the potential repercussions on MtGox's operations and the market, a decision was taken to close all transactions for the time being in order to protect the site and our users. We will be closely monitoring the situation and will react accordingly. Best regards, MtGox Team"

Sounds very passive. "Closely monitoring"? "React accordingly"? As if they were not the ones running the site.

It actually made me laugh out loud. The statement makes it seem like MtGox was all fine and dandy until media started to talk about its shutdown. And now they say:

> We will be closely monitoring the situation and will react accordingly.

As if they're just sitting back, staring at their screen, waiting to see what will happen. Passively.

Re: New message from Mt. Gox

#89
post #42

I'm one of those who lost a good amount on MtGox. It wasn't in there because I thought they are a bank, I put it there because I like to speculate from time to time. As such I was prepared to lose most if not all of it anyway. I didn't expect things to go wrong so thoroughly, but still that was the premise of my deposits there. So from that perspective, I'm not really mad about them losing the money. It's unfortunate…

OK...

...

... I shrunk it.

Re: New message from Mt. Gox

#90
post #44

When has the passive voice ever actually worked to calm a lynch mob?

When the speaker exists as a virtual office in another country.

It reminds me of something out of Heinlein's Friday.

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