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Apparent Theft at Mt. Gox Shakes Bitcoin World

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Re: Apparent Theft at Mt. Gox Shakes Bitcoin World

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I think people (perhaps rationally) believe that the people running the exchanges know more about keeping bitcoins secure than they themselves do. The analogy would be that you're a lot safer putting your money in a bank than trying to keep it safe in your house. And certainly a company whose entire business is trading in bitcoin should know how to keep them safe. Unfortunately the reality is obviously sometimes diff…

> I think people (perhaps rationally) believe that the people running the exchanges know more about keeping bitcoins secure than they themselves do. There was nothing rational about this assumption. Banks are bonded and insured with teams of very, very good security professionals auditing their stuff. Mt fricking Gox? Not so much.

Absolutely, but MtGox probably still knew more about keeping bitcoins secure than most individual owners. The decision to leave it at that and entrust them with large amounts of money wasn't rational, but the belief by many people that they were out of their depth managing the coins themselves was probably correct. (How many coins have been lost in hard drive crashes without backups for instance?) Yes, most people could educate themselves on these things, but most people won't. Nor should everyone have to be educated on everything; that's what civilization is all about. But if you aren't willing to do so, you probably shouldn't be an early adopter, before safeguards are in place.

Re: Apparent Theft at Mt. Gox Shakes Bitcoin World

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Yes, the Chinese are hard at work to give Americans ever more manufactured goods for ever fewer green pieces of paper. (Or to be more accurately, entries in a data base.)

It's so the value of the American debt held by China stays high, that way it's valuable and also hard to pay back.

Hard to pay back? The Americans can print all they money they ever need, and the debt is denominated in that currency.

(Additionally, isn't the amount of government debt held by the Chinese only something like 10% of the total government debt?)

Re: Apparent Theft at Mt. Gox Shakes Bitcoin World

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Yes, the Chinese are hard at work to give Americans ever more manufactured goods for ever fewer green pieces of paper. (Or to be more accurately, entries in a data base.)

I'm just an armchair economist, but I have read real economist argue that a strong US dollar limits the US's ability to repatriate it's manufacturing base. Also, I don't think China so much increases the dollar as it limits the growth of the Yuan in measure with technological and capital improvements that allow it to keep its export market strong and keep manufacturing business in China.

Yes, that's essentially what I said. And I question whether getting stuff for cheaper (or free) is a bad thing for those downtrodden Americans.

Re: Apparent Theft at Mt. Gox Shakes Bitcoin World

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> I think people (perhaps rationally) believe that the people running the exchanges know more about keeping bitcoins secure than they themselves do. There was nothing rational about this assumption. Banks are bonded and insured with teams of very, very good security professionals auditing their stuff. Mt fricking Gox? Not so much.

I see this as more of how local banks were before government guarantees started being implemented. If someone robbed the bank it was your money they were taking and not the bank's. Heck, if the bank burned to the ground your money was gone. Made for a tighter community in some cases; you rob the bank the whole town hunts you down. What was a bank? Any person off the street with a safe in a building who claimed they c…

> Sound familiar?

Yes, and equally stupid, which was my point in the first place. Why did you post?

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