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Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

#82

Installing Google Play on this should be trivial anyway, what's the big deal? The problem is that it's another iphone lookalike. I WANT A DAMN KEYBOARD!

This. I just don't understand what are the benefits of a on-screen keyboard vis-a-vis a slide-out hardware qwerty keyboard. Ever tried using an on-screen keyboard with wet hands? Tried texting in class without looking? Why can't we get one, just ONE, good Android device with a hardware keyboard?

Amen to that. If nothing else couldn't it be a differentiator? People have to get tired of rectangles with only bits of metal and plastic on them to signify any real difference.

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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If the camera is as good as the other Lumias and this can be flashed w/ CM, count me first in line at the fire sale

>3-megapixel camera :/

pixels without sensor size are meaningless. a 3 megapixel camera that has good dynamic range and can shoot reasonable shutter speed at low isos in low light would be much better in a phone than a 15 mpix.

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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spec: http://conversations.nokia.com/2014/02/24/nokia-x-family/ Looks rather poor. 800x480px on a 5-inch screen would be painful.

It's supposed to be very cheap'o. MS (and by that Nokia) is focusing on "fast-growing emerging markets" a lot.

And they're right to do that :) . A "base of the pyramid" attack on Apple and Samsung sounds like their only option.

Only Samsung and chinese companies are cornering that market, which was formerly Nokias'.

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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512MB ram? My year old android handset has 1GB and is slow as all hell. It hangs, reboots itself, shows weird errors ("Activity Phone is not responding" when somebody is calling) and takes 30 seconds to open firefox. I don't know what Nokia is thinking.

I have been there too. Then I installed cyanogenmod on my Nexus S. It's like night and day. Can't recommend enough. In the future I'm going after phones compatible with it.

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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512MB ram? My year old android handset has 1GB and is slow as all hell. It hangs, reboots itself, shows weird errors ("Activity Phone is not responding" when somebody is calling) and takes 30 seconds to open firefox. I don't know what Nokia is thinking.

I agree that 1 Gb would be ideal, but I have a 278 mb phone (Galaxy Ace from 2011), and it "works".

They're thinking that they'll probably bundle them for free with carriers in the 3rd world. I live in the 3rd world and the only "free" Android phones I can get with my U$ 20 contract are a Huawei crapphone, or Samsung Mini (the awful 1st version), both with Android 2.3. The non-Android alternatives are Nokia Ashas or other featurephones.

I'm pretty sure Nokia will be able to compete with the likes of the Huawei Ascend.

http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_ascend_y100-4839.php

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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If Microsoft ever does applications for Linux it means I've won. -- Linus Torvalds

Microsoft is a kernel contributor, and Android isn't really linux http://go.linuxfoundation.org/who-writes-linux-2012

Microsoft's contribution to the Linux kernel, is, AFAIK, limited to device drivers that make Linux run better under Hyper-V. So, they are not really improving Linux - they are using it as a bait for you to run your Linux workloads on your Windows servers, using Microsoft's virtualization technology.

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

#88

Installing Google Play on this should be trivial anyway, what's the big deal? The problem is that it's another iphone lookalike. I WANT A DAMN KEYBOARD!

This. I just don't understand what are the benefits of a on-screen keyboard vis-a-vis a slide-out hardware qwerty keyboard. Ever tried using an on-screen keyboard with wet hands? Tried texting in class without looking? Why can't we get one, just ONE, good Android device with a hardware keyboard?

I want a slider, but not a side-slider, a top-slider. I want something like the Blackberry Torch, but Android-based, or at least like the N86 or N95.

I still use my N86 for everyday use.

http://www.gsmarena.com/blackberry_torch_9800-3203.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n86_8mp-2713.php

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

#89

Installing Google Play on this should be trivial anyway, what's the big deal? The problem is that it's another iphone lookalike. I WANT A DAMN KEYBOARD!

This. I just don't understand what are the benefits of a on-screen keyboard vis-a-vis a slide-out hardware qwerty keyboard. Ever tried using an on-screen keyboard with wet hands? Tried texting in class without looking? Why can't we get one, just ONE, good Android device with a hardware keyboard?

> Tried texting in class without looking?

I could write on both my Palm and my Sony Ericsson P-800 with my eyes closed. Graffiti and whatever-SE-had were excellent options to physical keyboards.

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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I imagine this decision made through both Microsoft's and Nokia's legal departments, but I can't really stop wondering what the implications of Microsoft distributing GPLv2 (with implicit patent licenses) and Apache (with explicit ones) has on their patent extortionlicensing business can be.

This could end up being much larger than just a couple phones.

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