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One Man Has Written Virtually Every Major Pop Song Of The Last 20 Years.

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I clearly don't share the musical taste of most developers - I love most of the music he has written. I'm probably not the target demographic (more like the target's dad) but I still love pop music as much as I did when I was a teenager in love with Agnetha Faltskog.

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Does anyone know what's the equivelent in rap? Can I assume most mainstream rappers(Kanye, Wiz, 50 Cent etc.) heavily contribute to their own lyrics? I'm particularly curious about Eminem.

There are a handful of known ghostwriters in hiphop (who've even used ghostwriters themselves like Nas and Mase)... Sauce Money, Jay-Z, Eminem, Rakim, Pharoah Monch, Royce Da 5'9, Smitty, Skillz, TI, Cardan, but it's so taboo that most times you'll never know. It's far more commonly known that people buy beats from producers.

http://rapgenius.com/Jay-z-ride-or-die-lyrics#note-1097040

Re: One Man Has Written Virtually Every Major Pop Song Of The Last 20 Years.

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Does anyone know what's the equivelent in rap? Can I assume most mainstream rappers(Kanye, Wiz, 50 Cent etc.) heavily contribute to their own lyrics? I'm particularly curious about Eminem.

Most of the singers MM writes with contribute the lyrics. Hip Hop works almost the same way with their producers essentially writing the "song" structure (beats and loops).

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I don't understand all the hate. Okay I get we don't have a lot of backstreet boy or Britney fans here (not one either) & I get the whole "pop music sounds the same lament, but at the same time, there's a market for it & he's excelled at creating something that sells that. Just because it's pop music doesn't mean you can't give the guy credit for understanding his market & dominating his field.

I've got a feeling we're going to look back on this era of music with wide-eyed wonder and recognize many of his pop hits as the masterpieces they are. Unfortunately, social norms prevent us from listening with our ears.

I never ever listen to pop-music, but every summer I used to drive my parents car for 1-2 weeks. So I always got a fresh set of songs every summer, and every year there were between 0 and 2 songs that I found genuinely good (and I knew little or nothing about the artists). The last time was in 2011 (I think) and Rolling in the deep was the only song I liked. I'll go back and look through the producers, would be cool if one turned out to be Max Martin, but I somehow doubt it.

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I don't understand all the hate. Okay I get we don't have a lot of backstreet boy or Britney fans here (not one either) & I get the whole "pop music sounds the same lament, but at the same time, there's a market for it & he's excelled at creating something that sells that. Just because it's pop music doesn't mean you can't give the guy credit for understanding his market & dominating his field.

Also I think it's important to note that just because its pop music doesn't mean it does not take an incredible amount of skill to produce well. There are a handful of producers that dominate the field because they are the best ones. Dr Luke is an example of another.

What I dislike about Dr Luke is that his artists are autotuned to the extent that they all sound exactly the same.

Katy Perry's voice could be swapped for Avril Lavigne's and many people would barely notice.

This accusation is not new in pop music, and I do like his work, but it seems no more skillful by now than finding the right formula and milking it to death with marketing machinery.

It find it negative for creativity in music, and even a number of Ke$ha fans agree with that: http://www.idolator.com/7485711/kesha-fan-petition-free-dr-l...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got a feeling we're going to look back on this era of music with wide-eyed wonder and recognize many of his pop hits as the masterpieces they are. Unfortunately, social norms prevent us from listening with our ears.

I never ever listen to pop-music, but every summer I used to drive my parents car for 1-2 weeks. So I always got a fresh set of songs every summer, and every year there were between 0 and 2 songs that I found genuinely good (and I knew little or nothing about the artists). The last time was in 2011 (I think) and Rolling in the deep was the only song I liked. I'll go back and look through the producers, would be cool…

That Adele album was brilliantly written, you should go listen to it in its entirety if you haven't already.

Great username, great band.

Re: One Man Has Written Virtually Every Major Pop Song Of The Last 20 Years.

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I don't understand all the hate. Okay I get we don't have a lot of backstreet boy or Britney fans here (not one either) & I get the whole "pop music sounds the same lament, but at the same time, there's a market for it & he's excelled at creating something that sells that. Just because it's pop music doesn't mean you can't give the guy credit for understanding his market & dominating his field.

Also I think it's important to note that just because its pop music doesn't mean it does not take an incredible amount of skill to produce well. There are a handful of producers that dominate the field because they are the best ones. Dr Luke is an example of another.

Let's not forget promoters and ~~payola~~ playola.

Re: One Man Has Written Virtually Every Major Pop Song Of The Last 20 Years.

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also I think it's important to note that just because its pop music doesn't mean it does not take an incredible amount of skill to produce well. There are a handful of producers that dominate the field because they are the best ones. Dr Luke is an example of another.

What I dislike about Dr Luke is that his artists are autotuned to the extent that they all sound exactly the same. Katy Perry's voice could be swapped for Avril Lavigne's and many people would barely notice. This accusation is not new in pop music, and I do like his work, but it seems no more skillful by now than finding the right formula and milking it to death with marketing machinery. It find it negative for creat…

Pitch correction is unable to change the timbre of a voice. If you can't easily recognize different people's (auto-tuned) voices, you would be in the vast minority of humans who lack this basic skill.
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