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Post by krakensden »

bdcravens wrote: post #33
wwwarhawk wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Employee unions at the USPS worried about further job losses due to technology. Can't do anything that would decrease revenue, even if it means technological progress.

Of course, that's purely rational. Get a bunch of $100K/year programmers in a room and ask them to build software that improves the workflow of working with offshored $7/hour developers, and see the response you get.

Are you sure? I think we're doing pretty well at that. oDesk and open source have done a lot for a lot of people.

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Post by ghshephard »

Clearly there is no need for physical paper mail/envelope delivery to most people's home. With just a few exceptions, I haven't received a single piece of USPS physical mail "directly" since 2003. I was moving that fall, so I had picked up a PostOffice Box (And I had been using paytrust for all my paper bills since 1999) - and when I moved back to the Bay Area - I just never told anyone what my home address was, and put a big "DONOTDELIVER" on the post office box that came with my apartment.

The only exceptions to that, were in 2010, when I needed to get a California ID, and they would only mail it to my home address. Soon thereafter I started getting Jury Summons (Ironic for this Canadian) - with those two exceptions - no paper sent directly to me, couldn't be happier.

Pro Tip - A Post Office box at a "friendly" POBox location will throw away all your junk mail (probably in violation of some kind of USPS statute) and for a small fee, remail it to you anywhere in the world. Never have to change your address ever again. Never receive any direct mail.

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Post by [deleted] »

codegeek wrote: post #5

" senior leadership of USPS made it clear that they would never participate in any project that would limit junk mail and that they were immediately shutting down our partnership." This part is really interesting. Why would USPS do that ? Can someone from outbox elaborate on this ? I would love to get rid of the junk mail that I receive on a daily basis in my mailbox. It is crazy and I have to waste time in taking it…

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Post by ams6110 »

codegeek wrote: post #5

" senior leadership of USPS made it clear that they would never participate in any project that would limit junk mail and that they were immediately shutting down our partnership." This part is really interesting. Why would USPS do that ? Can someone from outbox elaborate on this ? I would love to get rid of the junk mail that I receive on a daily basis in my mailbox. It is crazy and I have to waste time in taking it…

It is time we had a donotcall.gov equivalent for junk mails.

http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0262-stopping-unsolicit...

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Post by mgkimsal »

yid wrote: post #71
mgkimsal wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"email considerably fewer." How so? I'd say that number is actually much higher.

You think that the email spam industry collectively employs more than 500,000 full-time voting adults, rather than a relative handful of humans and tons of bots? It's fine if you do, my hunch is just different.

No, but email in general does. And...

LOADS of what people classify as "spam" is simply stuff they signed up for and forgot about. Just last night a client had someone write in saying "I'm not getting your emails!". After some back and forth they had - 2 days prior - marked it as "spam" because they didn't recognize the name of the list, and so weren't getting any more mails (or, they were getting junked).

You may be able to make an internal distinction between "the spam industry" and "email" but many people can't or don't. Or perhaps more to the point, many people classify spam as "anything I don't like or didn't ask for" (even if, by dint of entering in to a transaction, they do in fact grant permission to get necessary emails now and then).

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Post by BrandonMarc »

jingala wrote: post #53
wwwarhawk wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Employee unions at the USPS worried about further job losses due to technology. Can't do anything that would decrease revenue, even if it means technological progress.

This comment is garbage. Do you think the CEO of USPS wants to decrease revenue? Hell no.

Does the USPS have a CEO? Or is that Congress?
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