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Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by thisiswrong » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 6:07 PM UTC

forrestthewoods wrote: post #2

Fuck Kim Dotcom. He's a scumbag piece of shit who deserves to rot in prison. He plots and schemes way to put hundreds of millions of dollars into his pocket off of the works of others. Anyone who supports him should be ashamed of themselves.

> Fuck Kim Dotcom. He's a scumbag piece of shit

Really? Perhaps you work for the corrupt dinosaurs at the MAFIAA or those in the UK/US government? Or perhaps you were easily fooled by the lies fed to you by mainstream media?

Either way, people on HN should remember that Kim Dotcom is one of the few successful .com businessmen to fight against Hollywood & the NSA in the name of internet freedom and privacy rights. Whatever you think of him, remember that the enemy of your enemy is always your friend.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by godgod » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 6:41 PM UTC

forrestthewoods wrote: post #2

Fuck Kim Dotcom. He's a scumbag piece of shit who deserves to rot in prison. He plots and schemes way to put hundreds of millions of dollars into his pocket off of the works of others. Anyone who supports him should be ashamed of themselves.

Hey Chris Dodd, go screw yourself.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by tunesmith » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 7:28 PM UTC

Ygg2 wrote: post #14

davidw wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really a fan of the vitriol in the grandparent comment, but yes, the record industry is different in that some of the profits accrue to the artists. Maybe not enough, but that's different than giving them nothing at all.

From what Courtney Love said, that's not really true. Well selling records can actually put the artist in debt. The best venue for artist to earn money are tours and merchandise.

The best ways for artists to earn money are not tours and merchandise. I don't know why that assertion keeps getting passed around as fact. No one ever seems to post data supporting it. For your basic indie musician tour (plus merchandise), you're doing really well if you are making enough money to pay for the food and lodging costs of the tour.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by curiousphil » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 7:34 PM UTC

zwdr wrote: post #71

yapcguy wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ... a fraud and an asshole. The only things he's good at are marketing and scamming Are you talking about AirBnb and their Craigslist scamming? > He's only interested in money. Meanwhile venture backed start-ups are doing God's work, right?!

>Are you talking about AirBnb and their Craigslist scamming? What? I don't even know if Kimble and AirBnB are connected... >Meanwhile venture backed start-ups are doing God's work, right?! If you do a Ctrl+F "venture" I'm sure you wont find any occurences in my post.

I believe he's comparing the less than above board things dotcom has done to the sidestepping of the law that AirBNB actively endorses. Basically saying that HN is all about companies like AirBNB because they hatched here while they aren't that much better when it comes to working within the law and playing by the rules. I could be mistaken though, correct me if I'm wrong yapcguy. Not saying I fully agree just trying to make sense of his post for you!

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by stonemetal » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 8:25 PM UTC

tunesmith wrote: post #83

Ygg2 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what Courtney Love said, that's not really true. Well selling records can actually put the artist in debt. The best venue for artist to earn money are tours and merchandise.

The best ways for artists to earn money are not tours and merchandise. I don't know why that assertion keeps getting passed around as fact. No one ever seems to post data supporting it. For your basic indie musician tour (plus merchandise), you're doing really well if you are making enough money to pay for the food and lodging costs of the tour.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100712/23482610186.shtml

Here you go the numbers. The High point is your average signed artist gets $23 out of $1000 in sales or 2.3%.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by eli » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 8:28 PM UTC

jagermo wrote: post #36

mrkmcknz wrote: post #20

Say what you want about Kim Dotcom, the guy is a marketing genius. Before Megaupload he was virtually unknown out of tech/finance circles. Now my mother knows who he is. Albeit, she calls him Dotcom Internet.

No, he was not. He was, among other things, known as a fellon in a pump and dump scheme around letsbuyit.com. http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/kimble/

You're suggesting that he was very well known for that scheme? Not so sure about that...

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by pbhjpbhj » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 8:39 PM UTC

tunesmith wrote: post #83

Ygg2 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what Courtney Love said, that's not really true. Well selling records can actually put the artist in debt. The best venue for artist to earn money are tours and merchandise.

The best ways for artists to earn money are not tours and merchandise. I don't know why that assertion keeps getting passed around as fact. No one ever seems to post data supporting it. For your basic indie musician tour (plus merchandise), you're doing really well if you are making enough money to pay for the food and lodging costs of the tour.

>No one ever seems to post data supporting it. //

Fan of irony I see.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by ryanSrich » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 8:42 PM UTC

goldenkey wrote: post #53

this_user wrote: post #31

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The recording industry at least doesn't run an underground BBS and sells out its users to law enforcement to save itself after being raided. Kimble has always been a self-centred scumbag. I really don't understand why anybody ever trust him again with anything.

You can judge someone both on their merits and vices. Both Mega and this Baboom are pretty awesome and technically amazing. I'm listening to his album right now, and it's actually really catchy and enjoyable. The man has many talents, and he is using them for good at the moment. I'd say the U.S. government is way worse than someone who is 'self-centered.' The U.S. is a war machine, Dotcom is conceited. Now who should…

> The man has many talents, and he is using them for good at the moment. I'd say the U.S. government is way worse than someone who is 'self-centered.'

That's akin to saying "well at least he's not killing innocent woman and children".

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by CamperBob2 » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 8:44 PM UTC

res0nat0r wrote: post #64

staticelf wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read some articles and I knew most of the stuff there. But my eyes hurt after visiting that website but even if it's just a hate site put up I will continue to read the articles and reply you later this evening when I have more time. But on first glance, it doesn't show any real picture of what happened. Just the typical hate campaign.

A hate campaign orchestrated by Forbes, Wired, CNet, The Register and Businessweek?

Honestly, that just makes me wonder if his biggest crime has been scaring some powerful people shitless.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by pantaril » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 8:52 PM UTC

forrestthewoods wrote: post #2

Fuck Kim Dotcom. He's a scumbag piece of shit who deserves to rot in prison. He plots and schemes way to put hundreds of millions of dollars into his pocket off of the works of others. Anyone who supports him should be ashamed of themselves.

"Fuck Kim Dotcom. He's a scumbag piece of shit who deserves to rot in prison. He plots and schemes way to put hundreds of millions of dollars into his pocket off of the works of others. Anyone who supports him should be ashamed of themselves."

Fuck YOU and current copyright. By running megaupload/mega Kim Dotcom did nothing wrong. He created service for sharing information, that is a good thing. The artificial limitations copyright imposes on usage of our technologies is retarded.