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The end of the Facebook era

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Re: The end of the Facebook era

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Post by rsl7 »

Swizec wrote: post #68

>As your Facebook network becomes saturated, it can feel very public. It puts the focus on managing your image, rather than truly bonding with people. Young startups like Snapchat are providing shelter from the institution of Facebook by serving as a place where you can express yourself comfortably. A place where you don’t feel like your every move is being watched. This is something I will likely never understand. W…

Wow. Ok. The answer is that there is no you. It's not a society problem. My read on a comment like yours is that you are young and have not experienced a life partitioned into parts that you don't want to overlap. That, if anything, is the reality of the human experience. Forcing together what should be separate is what is wrong and unnatural. Sorry.

Re: The end of the Facebook era

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Post by markdown »

Swizec wrote: post #68

>As your Facebook network becomes saturated, it can feel very public. It puts the focus on managing your image, rather than truly bonding with people. Young startups like Snapchat are providing shelter from the institution of Facebook by serving as a place where you can express yourself comfortably. A place where you don’t feel like your every move is being watched. This is something I will likely never understand. W…

> Why do people have so much trouble with being themselves?

1. Humans are judgemental creatures. 2. Humans like to feel loved.

Person X doesn't want his favourite aunt to stop liking him because she read his Facebook debate with a friend on the teaching of creationism in schools.

Re: The end of the Facebook era

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Post by aragot »

Swizec wrote: post #68

>As your Facebook network becomes saturated, it can feel very public. It puts the focus on managing your image, rather than truly bonding with people. Young startups like Snapchat are providing shelter from the institution of Facebook by serving as a place where you can express yourself comfortably. A place where you don’t feel like your every move is being watched. This is something I will likely never understand. W…

Two minutes ago I was watching this documentary about Trevor, the american guy who got shot. His mother was being interviewed. She asked the video to hide/blur her face.

How pointless is that. At the age of internet...

That's why people have trouble being themselves. Facts of life.

Re: The end of the Facebook era

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Post by aorshan »

As a younger person that these types of articles are so fond of talking about (I'm 21), I don't agree that members of my generation are leaving and that we don't perceive Facebook as cool. I think what's changed with the new social media companies is the timeliness of when we do things.

Perfect example- I was out for a Secret Santa dinner with a bunch of my friends. While we were at the dinner, we took tons of pictures, some of which ended up as Snapchat stories or on Instagram. But later that night, every single one of those pictures went up on Facebook. Cover photos were updated aplently. Why? Because all of us are on Facebook and Facebook is still the best way to permanently store and share the experiences you've had with your friends (while also tagging them in the photos).

Re: The end of the Facebook era

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Post by cylinder »

crazygringo wrote: post #60

> Teens likely see Facebook the same way the Facebook generation sees LinkedIn – like a utilitarian place to manage connections. I've heard it a billion times that teens aren't using Facebook. But who cares ? I just don't see any evidence that this heralds the end of Facebook. It's not necessarily any more meaningful than "people ages 65-70 don't use Facebook". It's a small percentage of the population. And there's n…

I don't care about teenagers, but I do find it very interesting that the "founding members" of Facebook, people who were college students in 2004-2005 who excitedly joined and engaged with Facebook in its early years, are just not very engaged with FB anymore (I'm one of them), unless they maybe just had a baby.

It's almost disturbing that these days a company can be founded, become an overnight success, grow immensely, have a huge IPO, then get disrupted and on the decline in a span of only nine years.

Re: The end of the Facebook era

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Post by cenhyperion »

Swizec wrote: post #68

>As your Facebook network becomes saturated, it can feel very public. It puts the focus on managing your image, rather than truly bonding with people. Young startups like Snapchat are providing shelter from the institution of Facebook by serving as a place where you can express yourself comfortably. A place where you don’t feel like your every move is being watched. This is something I will likely never understand. W…

>Why do people have so much trouble with being themselves?

Because people's lives have different sections that often have parts you don't want to overlap. You probably don't want your boss seeing a photo of you drunk at a party, and you probably don't want your conservative uncle to see that you are politically liberal.

In both those circumstances it's not that you'd necessarily hide those parts of your personality from the other parties involved; your boss probably gets drunk too and your uncle isn't going to stop speaking to you because your political views differ. It's more that it doesn't improve the relationship with that person.

Yes, it would be great if people didn't judge each other but unfortunately that's not how the psychology works.

So, unless you live a life in which you're comfortable revealing every opinion you hold and every action you've taken (in which case wow that's impressive) you have to maintain a certain image that you broadcast on a service like facebook.

Re: The end of the Facebook era

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Post by alex_c »

scarecrowbob wrote: post #72
owenmarshall wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's not necessarily any more meaningful than "people ages 65-70 don't use Facebook". From an advertising perspective, there's a massive gulf between "teens don't use Facebook" and "senior citizens don't use Facebook". To put it flippantly: one group is headed into a coveted demographic, the other group buys denture paste. That's not to say that Facebook wouldn't do fine even if the only people that used it were "u…

I don't think that "advertisers" are as homogenous as you portray them here; generally, they have specific products that they are marketing to specific demographics, which sometimes includes denture paste.

True, but teens and young adults are much harder to reach through "traditional" advertising and much more valuable because advertisers can influence purchasing habits that will last a lifetime. As a group, they are worth a lot more to an advertising supported business than the 65-70 crowd.

Re: The end of the Facebook era

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Post by Swizec »

rsl7 wrote: post #81
Swizec wrote: post #68

>As your Facebook network becomes saturated, it can feel very public. It puts the focus on managing your image, rather than truly bonding with people. Young startups like Snapchat are providing shelter from the institution of Facebook by serving as a place where you can express yourself comfortably. A place where you don’t feel like your every move is being watched. This is something I will likely never understand. W…

Wow. Ok. The answer is that there is no you. It's not a society problem. My read on a comment like yours is that you are young and have not experienced a life partitioned into parts that you don't want to overlap. That, if anything, is the reality of the human experience. Forcing together what should be separate is what is wrong and unnatural. Sorry.

Oh I've done plenty of partitioning life into parts that I didn't want to overlap. But then I grew up and became me.

What I've found is that people are far more accepting of me, like me much better, and I generally build better and deeper relationships quicker. My life has also become much simpler since I no longer have to filter myself all the freaking time.

It's really nice. You should try it. But it does take oodles of confidence. If you aren't confident in yourself, then you will not be able to pull it off.

Re: The end of the Facebook era

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Post by freyr »

michaelochurch wrote: post #67

Snapchat is a frivolous, silly app mainly used for sexting. I agree that there is something in combing asynchrony and ephemerality, but come on. Nothing run by the likes of Evan Spiegel is going to threaten Facebook. He's not in the same class as Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates. He's not even in the same class as me. He's a rich kid and a lottery winner and should have sold at $3 billion and let someone else run it. No…

> Snapchat is a frivolous, silly app

Sure.

> mainly used for sexting.

Is this actually true? It hasn't really been my experience, but maybe my friends are prudes.

> I agree that there is something in combing asynchrony and ephemerality, but come on. Nothing run by the likes of Evan Spiegel is going to threaten Facebook. He's not in the same class as Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates. He's not even in the same class as me. He's a rich kid and a lottery winner and should have sold at $3 billion and let someone else run it.

The amount of butthurt in this comment is off the charts. You just took butthurt to 11.

Mark Zuckerberg was also a snotty, privileged rich kid once (he's not a kid anymore). In any case, who are you to put limits on what some 20-something kid is capable of? Because you have a lot of imaginary points on a comment board? Maybe his success is due to luck, or maybe it's because he didn't spend his time tearing down other people on a comment board.

Anyway, go ahead and build out Quality Social. Take the $3B offer, or maybe you should decline it because you're in another class.

Re: The end of the Facebook era

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Post by Swizec »

cenhyperion wrote: post #86
Swizec wrote: post #68

>As your Facebook network becomes saturated, it can feel very public. It puts the focus on managing your image, rather than truly bonding with people. Young startups like Snapchat are providing shelter from the institution of Facebook by serving as a place where you can express yourself comfortably. A place where you don’t feel like your every move is being watched. This is something I will likely never understand. W…

>Why do people have so much trouble with being themselves? Because people's lives have different sections that often have parts you don't want to overlap. You probably don't want your boss seeing a photo of you drunk at a party, and you probably don't want your conservative uncle to see that you are politically liberal. In both those circumstances it's not that you'd necessarily hide those parts of your personality f…

> Because people's lives have different sections that often have parts you don't want to overlap. You probably don't want your boss seeing a photo of you drunk at a party, and you probably don't want your conservative uncle to see that you are politically liberal.

Quite the contrary. I don't want a boss who has a problem with my being drunk when I'm not at work and I would love nothing more than to have a good debate about politics with my uncle.

Yes, I am actually comfortable expressing my every opinion to just about anyone. I didn't used to be, but then I grew a pair and became more comfortable with myself. People reacted very very positively.

It's amazing how quickly one can build intimate friendships and even get people to open up themselves when you just take the first step. Hell, just the other day a cool lady I've known for all of two weeks said I'm the most open person she's ever met.

And a few weeks ago a girl told me she is able to talk to me about things she hasn't spoken about with anyone in something like ten years. It was a few hours after the first time we've ever met.

But the first step, as always, is accepting yourself for who you are. I have a feeling many people don't feel comfortable doing that.

For an example just think of the internet's new favorite celebrity Jennifer Lawrence. Her main quality is that she's human and that she isn't afraid of being honest and open about herself.

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