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Dell introduces 28" 4K Ultra HD Monitor for under $1K, shipping early 2014

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Re: Dell introduces 28" 4K Ultra HD Monitor for under $1K, shipping early 2014

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I'm a bit curious why both the 24" and the 32" are priced over 1k, yet they are able to get the 28" down below that mark. That's not to say that I'm not incredibly excited to see how this ends up! I've been looking for a sub-1.5k 28" monitor with high resolution for a while, and though I love my Apple Thunderbolt Display I use at work, I am hesitant that if I buy one for myself, I'll be buying right before a refresh.…

Unfortunately, the 28” is going to have the wrong pixel density to use with OS X in Retina mode. Non-Retina MacBooks start at 110 PPI. Cinema Displays have hovered around 100 PPI for about a decade, with the 27” Thunderbolt Display topping out at 109 PPI (same for its sister 27” iMac). At 28", a 3840 x 2160 panel has a PPI of 157, which, dividing by two to get the equivalent non-Retina PPI, comes to only 78.5, a redu…

Ugh. This is why true DPI independence in the OS is so important. There should be no such thing as a "wrong" pixel density.

Re: Dell introduces 28" 4K Ultra HD Monitor for under $1K, shipping early 2014

#82

I'm a bit curious why both the 24" and the 32" are priced over 1k, yet they are able to get the 28" down below that mark. That's not to say that I'm not incredibly excited to see how this ends up! I've been looking for a sub-1.5k 28" monitor with high resolution for a while, and though I love my Apple Thunderbolt Display I use at work, I am hesitant that if I buy one for myself, I'll be buying right before a refresh.…

The press release is saying that the 24"/32" will support 99% of AdobeRGB. So, better gamut on the 24"/32" means more money than the 28".

Re: Dell introduces 28" 4K Ultra HD Monitor for under $1K, shipping early 2014

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50" for my desktop. What? Most people I know can't even handle the current 30" monitors. It feels nicer having two 27" monitors from a not-grossly-exceeding-peripheral-vision viewpoint.

Like jfb says, different strokes. I use multiple 30" monitors on my two workstations and I would prefer a single 50" display. My wife's Seiki has more raw pixels than two of my 30" monitors. I admit that an ideal 50" display would be OLED and concave, but I'll keep those off my wish-list for the time being. I don't want the manufacturers to think I'm being unreasonable. High-DPI and large form-factor seem reasonable…

I think current interfaces would fall over in a truly immersive environment; I find it too damn hard to keep track of all my windows and modals and popups and shit with 2x27"; if I was offered tomorrow a 65", 400ppi screen, I'd have a hard time setting up my work environment to match.

Given that I'm not terribly happy about vast screen resolution with existing software, I'd much prefer smaller, higher-PQ, super-high density screens while we as an industry figure out how to make immersive displays usable.

Just MHO, of course.

Re: Dell introduces 28" 4K Ultra HD Monitor for under $1K, shipping early 2014

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Wonder how well various OSes will handle resolution jumps. The embarassing failure to scale GUI objects was acceptable in the technically-limited '90s, but in 2013 it seems ridiculous to have everything pixel-sized.

All the big ones (Mac, ios, win8, winphone, Ubuntu, android) support pixel doubling. And they're all a long way from dynamic scaling.

Re: Dell introduces 28" 4K Ultra HD Monitor for under $1K, shipping early 2014

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like jfb says, different strokes. I use multiple 30" monitors on my two workstations and I would prefer a single 50" display. My wife's Seiki has more raw pixels than two of my 30" monitors. I admit that an ideal 50" display would be OLED and concave, but I'll keep those off my wish-list for the time being. I don't want the manufacturers to think I'm being unreasonable. High-DPI and large form-factor seem reasonable…

I hear you on the bezels, however I like the wrap around effect multiple portrait monitors give over 1 big flat monitor Curved high dpi 50" please!

> Curved high dpi 50" please!

Exactly! If I could have all my wish-list items in desktop computing, it would include a large, concave, high-DPI, OLED display with mouse and gesture input.

Re: Dell introduces 28" 4K Ultra HD Monitor for under $1K, shipping early 2014

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like jfb says, different strokes. I use multiple 30" monitors on my two workstations and I would prefer a single 50" display. My wife's Seiki has more raw pixels than two of my 30" monitors. I admit that an ideal 50" display would be OLED and concave, but I'll keep those off my wish-list for the time being. I don't want the manufacturers to think I'm being unreasonable. High-DPI and large form-factor seem reasonable…

I hear you on the bezels, however I like the wrap around effect multiple portrait monitors give over 1 big flat monitor Curved high dpi 50" please!

I don't get the whole "curved" thing. I quite enjoyed getting rid of "curved" displays with the switch to LCDs.

Re: Dell introduces 28" 4K Ultra HD Monitor for under $1K, shipping early 2014

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This macbook pro spec page says hdmi port can output 4k at 24hz. http://www.apple.com/uk/macbook-pro/specs-retina/

And yet my MBP refuses to output HDMI above 1920 for me :/

Check your cable's version if you're using the latest MBP. Also, check if your output device can handle it. My dell u3011 can't handle even 2560x1600 through HDMI (which it has 2 for some reason).

Re: Dell introduces 28" 4K Ultra HD Monitor for under $1K, shipping early 2014

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I hear you on the bezels, however I like the wrap around effect multiple portrait monitors give over 1 big flat monitor Curved high dpi 50" please!

I don't get the whole "curved" thing. I quite enjoyed getting rid of "curved" displays with the switch to LCDs.

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Re: Dell introduces 28" 4K Ultra HD Monitor for under $1K, shipping early 2014

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I hear you on the bezels, however I like the wrap around effect multiple portrait monitors give over 1 big flat monitor Curved high dpi 50" please!

I don't get the whole "curved" thing. I quite enjoyed getting rid of "curved" displays with the switch to LCDs.

The "curved" that we got rid of was convex CRTs.

The "curved" people want is concave screens so that, at the optimal viewing point, all points on the screen are equidistant for the viewer (people with multimonitor setups often approximate this by angling some of the monitors, but concave monitors would avoid the need for this.)

The idea is convex < flat < concave.

Re: Dell introduces 28" 4K Ultra HD Monitor for under $1K, shipping early 2014

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Awesome. I say this is a sign that the incumbent manufacturers are finally adapting to the heat brought on by Korean and Chinese newcomers. "Industry's most affordable Ultra HD monitor" is semantics. The Seiki 39" is still substantially cheaper, now at less than $500 on Amazon. Technically, that is a television, so I suppose "monitor" is a clever use of words by Dell. If Seiki drops an HDMI 2 version of their monitor…

When I saw this title, I knew you'd be at the top of the comments.

Glad the industry is heeding your call to action! :)

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