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Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by rfnslyr »

mortenjorck wrote: post #42
cclogg wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love my new Retina MBP, however the most annoying thing I found was dealing with so many non-retina things that look hideously blurry lol. I don't have a problem with the screen though, but weirdly enough in the last year or so I've had real problems with iPads. Like if I read or use it for even a short while, I get that nauseous headache feeling. Apparently it might have to do with LED screens.

Dealing with other lower-DPI screens is what I thought my problem would be, but the biggest issue I've found with moving to a Retina MacBook Pro are the drawbacks of the technology being so new. Compared with my old CCFL-backlit desktop LCD, the Retina Display's backlight is far less uniform, and whites have a more readily perceptible color shift across the screen. It's not enough to qualify for a replacement (trust…

How do you even notice these things?

and whites have a more readily perceptible color shift across the screen

Is yours dysfunctional? Retina screen has honestly been a godsend.

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by zokier »

steveridout wrote: post #73

I'd be very happy with an 8-bit colour 2560x1600 24" monitor. It would be more affordable and way easier for graphics cards to run, why is no-one making one of these!?

The whole idea behind 4k is that you can feed it 1080p content and it will be displayed no worse than it would be on native 1080p display. In other words it allows easily swap between having conventional 24" 1080p performance or full 4k resolution, and this swapping can be relatively easily be done on a per-application basis, or possibly even more granually. Imagine eg having a WebGL context being pixel-doubled while the text on the same page being rendered at full resolution.

In comparison, in a 2560x1600 24" monitor you'd get either quite big/ugly double-pixels, or scaling artifacts of non-integer multiple scaling.

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by machinshin_ »

MaulingMonkey wrote: post #65
ajasmin wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if you remotely care about color accuracy or gaming Lots of hackers only care about having enough pixels to legibly represent characters in their tiny coding font.

Finally, a resolution that will let me fit enough text on the screen when combined with http://mrl.nyu.edu/~perlin/homepage2006/tinyfont/ !

is that font downloadable somewhere?

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by Shivetya »

shitlord wrote: post #53

I really wish companies would stop selling monitors with their logo placed obnoxiously on the front. I don't care if they put the logo on any other part of the display, but why do they have to ruin the front of it? I really love looking at plain black slabs, with nothing to distract me from the content within. I want to buy a couple of monitors and mount them. But there's just one small thing stopping me. I don't kno…

When selling in retail how will people know whose monitor they are looking at? Logos serve many purposes, but in the wild they are a good source of marketing. Should we ask them to not brand even the box the CPU comes in?

At most they could make the logo easily removable, too me that would be a fair compromise.

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by praxeologist »

machinshin_ wrote: post #84
MaulingMonkey wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Finally, a resolution that will let me fit enough text on the screen when combined with http://mrl.nyu.edu/~perlin/homepage2006/tinyfont/ !

is that font downloadable somewhere?

A possible alternative is Miniscule: http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/256tm/minuscule/

http://ge.tt/7v8w1R61/v/0

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by simoncion »

Leynos wrote: post #66
simoncion wrote: post #37

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Yeah. I hope that I'll live to see non-CRT consumer displays with actual 5->10 ms response times and real blacks, but I'm not too optimistic.

An OLED screen will deliver that (pure black and sub-ms response time). And they are on sale now as televisions (albeit at scary prices along the lines of US$13000 for a 55" screen). 4k OLED screens with a 55" diagonal have also been demonstrated. From the sounds of things, new manufacturing techniques are being developed that will bring the prices down to sensible levels. Here's a review of one of the screens curren…

We'll see how long it takes for good OLED tech to make it into the consumer computer monitor market. When I was younger, it was predicted that we would have affordable 600dpi, sub ms switching time time LED computer monitors by the early to mid 2000s.

"The market" is often an obstructionist bitch.

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by eropple »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #60
eropple wrote: post #58

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I used to use 2x30" very comfortably for coding, I don't think this is that tough.

I tried two 24 inches once, my neck got sore for a week. My cubicle is simply too small for it to work well.

Ah, yeah, I WFH in a home office with a standing desk. Right now I'm using 3x1080p + my rMBP panel and I find it pretty solid.

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by mortenjorck »

eropple wrote: post #55
mortenjorck wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dealing with other lower-DPI screens is what I thought my problem would be, but the biggest issue I've found with moving to a Retina MacBook Pro are the drawbacks of the technology being so new. Compared with my old CCFL-backlit desktop LCD, the Retina Display's backlight is far less uniform, and whites have a more readily perceptible color shift across the screen. It's not enough to qualify for a replacement (trust…

The rMBPs I've run (including my own) across have had very uniform brightness and white color. I'm curious which manufacturer made the LCD in yours because--going from the usual problems with Apple LCDs. If you aren't aware, you can tease out the LCD manufacturer via the model string and this command: ioreg -lw0 | grep "EDID" | sed "/[^ If it begins with LSN, it's a Samsung (which tend to be the good ones); if it's L…

It's an LG. No perceptible image retention, actually (the problem I was worried about), but I think I'd almost prefer it to these issues.

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by mortenjorck »

rfnslyr wrote: post #81
mortenjorck wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dealing with other lower-DPI screens is what I thought my problem would be, but the biggest issue I've found with moving to a Retina MacBook Pro are the drawbacks of the technology being so new. Compared with my old CCFL-backlit desktop LCD, the Retina Display's backlight is far less uniform, and whites have a more readily perceptible color shift across the screen. It's not enough to qualify for a replacement (trust…

How do you even notice these things? and whites have a more readily perceptible color shift across the screen Is yours dysfunctional? Retina screen has honestly been a godsend.

It's a blessing and a curse. I'm sure at least 50% of people wouldn't even notice, and 90% wouldn't find it distracting. Alas, I do.
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