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Google is building a Chrome app-based development environment

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Re: Google is building a Chrome app-based development environment

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Post by epsylon »

techzomby wrote: post #51
archagon wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, most browser extensions relate to browsing. Google, on the other hand, is trying to turn the browser into an OS. This is a really big shift that may very well determine the future of computing, so I think there's plenty here for people to get legitimately angry about. Not really the same kind of "hate train" that occasionally shows up on project posts, I think.

What's wrong with the Chrome browser becoming an OS? What you get is a fast and secure OS. Most users spend most of the time on the browser anyways - why not leverage that to make user's lives easier?

Why would I want a crippled, vendor locked-in OS inside my fully capable and free OS?

Re: Google is building a Chrome app-based development environment

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Post by nhebb »

daliusd wrote: post #70
nhebb wrote: post #64

What is the practical use case here? Before this there were Microsoft HTA's and Mozilla's XUL apps, neither of which had widespread adoption among developers.

Short: * HTML apps potentially will work everywhere (if you will take care they will at least work on Firefox, Opera and Chrome). * There are HTML5 tools and knowledge already in place. Plus years of experience in HTML can be used. Long: IMHO developers should look into the future here not into today but even today you can do quite a lot. XUL most probably failed because there were no tools, learning material and lib…

HTA (HTML Application - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_Application) was Microsoft's foray into sandboxed HTML + CSS + JS applications back in 1999.

Re: Google is building a Chrome app-based development environment

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Post by dgregd »

Grue3 wrote: post #83

Chrome is becoming the new IE6. Just yesterday I got notified of some new feature in Gmail... of course it worked only in Chrome. Fuck that.

> Chrome is becoming the new IE6

Web developers hated IE6 not for new features it had. It was hated for lack of bug fixes and no new releases.

IE7 was released 5 years after IE6. Chrome is updated every 6 weeks.

Re: Google is building a Chrome app-based development environment

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Post by dgregd »

isaacwaller wrote: post #2

I don't understand Chrome apps. They require installation and only work on Chrome, so they come with none of the benefits of the web. They are slower and uglier than native Windows/Mac/Linux apps. What's the point?

> They are slower and uglier than native Windows/Mac/Linux apps. What's the point?

Eat your own dog food. Google developers test new HTML5 APIs.

Re: Google is building a Chrome app-based development environment

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Post by tluyben2 »

isaacwaller wrote: post #2

I don't understand Chrome apps. They require installation and only work on Chrome, so they come with none of the benefits of the web. They are slower and uglier than native Windows/Mac/Linux apps. What's the point?

Uglier? In general to me that doesn't seem to be the case, at least compared to Win/Lin applications.

Re: Google is building a Chrome app-based development environment

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Post by daliusd »

nhebb wrote: post #82
daliusd wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Short: * HTML apps potentially will work everywhere (if you will take care they will at least work on Firefox, Opera and Chrome). * There are HTML5 tools and knowledge already in place. Plus years of experience in HTML can be used. Long: IMHO developers should look into the future here not into today but even today you can do quite a lot. XUL most probably failed because there were no tools, learning material and lib…

HTA (HTML Application - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_Application ) was Microsoft's foray into sandboxed HTML + CSS + JS applications back in 1999.

Ouch, I have worked with this once. That is living (dead?) proof that ideas are nothing and implementation is all what matters. I remember that I had even to do some very exotic workarounds using C++ to overcome one shortcoming of HTA.

Re: Google is building a Chrome app-based development environment

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Post by daliusd »

laureny wrote: post #30

Before Android, I would have been super excited to read this, but now...? Seems like it's yet another technology that Android will soon be steamrolling.

Could you give any reason for your excitement for Android? Android is popular now but that does not mean that it will be popular forever. Fort Model T and Sony Walkman are good examples of things that were popular once.

Re: Google is building a Chrome app-based development environment

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Post by sangnoir »

archagon wrote: post #39
tadfisher wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So browser extensions are bad now? When can HN get off the hate train for everything new? This place is seriously starting to depress me.

Well, most browser extensions relate to browsing. Google, on the other hand, is trying to turn the browser into an OS. This is a really big shift that may very well determine the future of computing, so I think there's plenty here for people to get legitimately angry about. Not really the same kind of "hate train" that occasionally shows up on project posts, I think.

> Google, on the other hand, is trying to turn the browser into an OS

This isn't new, not since Marc Andreessen said "[Netscape will soon reduce Windows to] a poorly debugged set of device drivers" - in 1995. Which I take to mean he fully intended to make everything above device drivers the domain of the browser.

Re: Google is building a Chrome app-based development environment

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Post by TIJ »

coldtea wrote: post #66
TIJ wrote: post #25

they gonna end up giving such developer access to everyone where we'd be making standalone app every other day in short more power and more apps i am super excited about it.

Yes, just what we need, more crappy apps.

how can you be so sure of that and even if i will come up with crappy apps maybe some big professional company comes up with something that you will end up using you never know...;)
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