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Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by ausjke »

ausjke wrote: post #72
eigenvector wrote: post #9

Here's the Android release notes: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html Highlights: * WebView is now based on Chromium * KSM and zRAM integrated into stock kernel * Public SMS framework * Printing framework * Storage access framework

This is expected, wondering if kiosk mode can be supported as it's supported in chromium.

"Chrome for Android supports a few features which aren't enabled in the WebView, including: WebGL 3D canvas WebRTC WebAudio Fullscreen API Form validation" Since Fullscreen API is unsupported, so no Kiosk.

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by devx »

eigenvector wrote: post #9

Here's the Android release notes: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html Highlights: * WebView is now based on Chromium * KSM and zRAM integrated into stock kernel * Public SMS framework * Printing framework * Storage access framework

Some new design stuff, too:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+RomanNurik/posts/EURexV9yF32

http://phandroid.com/2013/10/31/android-kit-kat-videos/

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by klausa »

andybak wrote: post #51
klausa wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>WebView is now based on Chromium Does that mean that there will no more be stock 'Browser' app? I refuse to use Chrome on Android because of brain-dead, non-disablable 'font-boosting' that makes (among many others) Hacker News absolutely unusable. If that means that the same engine is the only one officially supported on 4.4 forwards, then that's really sad and unfortunate.

It seems to have become much less annoying in the Chrome beta. Have you tried it recently?

I just did, following your suggestion. Unfortunately, it's still the same unusable garbage.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rnl8m9ioi9ric5v/2013-10-31%2020.04... - latest chrome beta (release looks absolutely identical) https://www.dropbox.com/s/867wrehnqsiu3oc/2013-10-31%2020.04... - CM10.1.3 stock browser

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by pbz »

klausa wrote: post #37
eigenvector wrote: post #9

Here's the Android release notes: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html Highlights: * WebView is now based on Chromium * KSM and zRAM integrated into stock kernel * Public SMS framework * Printing framework * Storage access framework

>WebView is now based on Chromium Does that mean that there will no more be stock 'Browser' app? I refuse to use Chrome on Android because of brain-dead, non-disablable 'font-boosting' that makes (among many others) Hacker News absolutely unusable. If that means that the same engine is the only one officially supported on 4.4 forwards, then that's really sad and unfortunate.

I use Opera for this reason alone.

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by chops »

klausa wrote: post #37
eigenvector wrote: post #9

Here's the Android release notes: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html Highlights: * WebView is now based on Chromium * KSM and zRAM integrated into stock kernel * Public SMS framework * Printing framework * Storage access framework

>WebView is now based on Chromium Does that mean that there will no more be stock 'Browser' app? I refuse to use Chrome on Android because of brain-dead, non-disablable 'font-boosting' that makes (among many others) Hacker News absolutely unusable. If that means that the same engine is the only one officially supported on 4.4 forwards, then that's really sad and unfortunate.

I don't use HN site on Chrome Browser anymore because the app Hacker News 2 is so good: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airlocksof...

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by dasil003 »

aroch wrote: post #60
corresation wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's fascinating, but how is that relevant? Yes, this device was wanted by a lot of people, many of whom were going to storm the gates. Evidenced by the fact that it sold out. If it makes you feel better trying to niche the sales of Nexus devices, good for you, but I see absolutely no point in your comment.

You make it sound like they blew through a massive stock of them because of demand. More than likely they blew through Google's standard, lackluster supply which is hardly surprising. Google's ability to properly sell physical hardware is abysmal

What do you mean by "properly" sell physical hardware? They are a services company, and their interest is in the overall Android ecosystem. If you ask me they are doing a decent job of toeing the line between shipping a good reference implementation and a big Microsoftian middle finger to the OEMs that butter their bread.

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by bsimpson »

dasil003 wrote: post #70
reustle wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Galaxy Nexus came out at the end of 2011. It can only handle the latest OS for so long...

For less than 2 years? That's worse than Apple, and not just a little.

They seeded the Galaxy Nexus to developers at I/O in 2012. Presumably they'll seed the Nexus 5 at I/O in 2014. For the next seven months, developers who rely on Google-seeded devices will be using out-of-date software. That defeats the whole point of seeding devices.

Re: Android for all and the new Nexus 5

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Post by X-Istence »

pwthornton wrote: post #71
reustle wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Galaxy Nexus came out at the end of 2011. It can only handle the latest OS for so long...

This is in stark contrast to iOS, which runs on a phone released in June 2010.

The most recent iOS only now deprecated the iPhone 3GS which was released in June 2009.

Up until two months ago a 4 year old device was still running the latest version of iOS. Why is Google unable to do the same?

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