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you're right, but local bash in the browser is technically not possible for now. (if you don't hack or bridge the chrome). It can be an emulator or a connector like the secure-shell app by Google in Chrome store. Terminal app provides a free and full terminal with Koding VM.
It's certainly possible to run a GNU userland on top of NaCl, though it would be highly nontrivial.
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#82Real SSH, all symlink.
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Oh, I mean I wasn't impressed with the terminal emulator itself. At least when I tried it, it seemed to have problems with some ctrl-sequences (as in, other things would get them instead of whatever I was running in the terminal emulator). I also was not very impressed with the weird cursor fading thing it does. Right now I'm running Debian Wheezy on my Pixel with a recent kernel that I built myself (the 3.0.whatever…
>> Oh, I mean I wasn't impressed with the terminal emulator itself. At least when I tried it, it seemed to have problems with some ctrl-sequences (as in, other things would get them instead of whatever I was running in the terminal emulator). This is true, my go-to text mode editor (yes you can laugh) nano has Ctrl-O for write-out and that brings up the ChromeOS open dialog instead. It's most irritating. I might wait…
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/crosh-window/nhbmp...
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#84Also, it's apparently unpatched since May:
$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 3.9.0-0-generic (root@salt-master.in.koding.com) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) ) #4userns5 SMP Mon May 13 06:15:34 PDT 2013Re: Real Terminal, All Chrome
#85PSA: Don't count on this to be secure. Not just because Koding can obviously monitor everything you do, but because the implementation appears to rely on some more or less flimsy kernel container isolation (user namespaces etc). This means hackers can break out of one instance of this and enter others. So please, don't use this as a bouncing point to SSH to other servers or for anything else that might be even a litt…
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#86so let me get this straight... they wrote a terminal app that sends all your code to some third party? wow yeah lets just throw security out the window. no mention of the privacy implications on any of this. not sure if any of my clients would want their intellectual property sent out to some random third party. thanks but no thanks. i'd rather use xterm or gnome-terminal.
or github, aws etc. Oh yeah thats right, couldnt use those either. I guess you host everything yourself on a private network that you install all the connectivity for globally ?
For what it's worth, I think the level of criticism you're receiving is grossly unfair. However I also don't think you've done yourself any favours here either. You content has been focused on how "cool" this technology is without really focusing on the security of your service. Since this is a hacker forum and since the very nature of SSH is a secure communications channel, it's understandable that people are concerned about this aspect of your business.
However I also think people have gone overboard. This is a typical example of a growing trend on HN for members to dismiss others hard work - after all, it's easier to contribute in a community by offering negative criticism than it is to create content for all to criticise.
Sadly though, even in spite of my issues with the direction this thread has taken and the amount of negativity posted, I do have to agree with the points being raised. So as much as this project interests me and looks innovative, personally I would rather stick with native client running locally. I don't feel you're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist (sessions can be restored via terminal multiplexers such as screen and tmux and there are already a number of native client terminal emulators available for every OS imaginable). In effect, what you've done is created a product that raises security concerns without offering any real benefits. And it really pains me to say this given my previous rant about the amount of negativity in this thread.
Best of luck though.
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#87"Terminal is the core of all development that’s ever been done in the history of computing." ... my high school hypercard stacks beg to differ...
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#88I am so, so tired of all this Koding spam. I've seen spam from multiple accounts (one of which was fka, who now admits to being a dev) on both HN and Reddit.
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#89"Terminal is the core of all development that’s ever been done in the history of computing." ... my high school hypercard stacks beg to differ...
You took the words out of my mouth. Oh and my HP48 has done many hours as a primary computation device.
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#90PSA: Don't count on this to be secure. Not just because Koding can obviously monitor everything you do, but because the implementation appears to rely on some more or less flimsy kernel container isolation (user namespaces etc). This means hackers can break out of one instance of this and enter others. So please, don't use this as a bouncing point to SSH to other servers or for anything else that might be even a litt…
I have $1000 here waiting for you if you can break from one container to another. I need valid proof in the form of source code for your exploit. send it to hello @ koding.com and we will paypal you the money.