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I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

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Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

#81

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It doesn't work for IE9. The author built it with HTML5 stuff, so sadly the IE9 WP7 won't work. But you should be used to that for mobile websites, people kinda just build for WebKit on mobile.

Webkit is the mobile IE6 if you ask me. Very narrow minded design and testing from the people who usually bitch about IE6. Oh the irony.

I don't understand the basis for that position and don't think it's true at all. Why do you think that's comparable at all?

Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

#82

I'm resigned to the fact this website will never improve at all.

Personally, I believe that this layout deters those who might not be as serious about the content HN brings to the table. The type of person who would judge this website based on its simplistic layout is probably the same type of person who wouldn't read half of the articles posted, or contribute to the conversations at all.

Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

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I think it looks fine. Everytime someone wants to make a mobile experience better, I want to kill a kitten. More often than not it makes vastly worse. Why can't people just keep it to themselves. Steve Jobs and Co. gave me a real browser so I didn't have to use a sub-par web. Now everyone is forcing it on me anyway. Stop. Please stop. Half of the websites I use have been ruined by responsive, and or enhancing, the mo…

Are you against bad mobile implementations or just mobile implementations altogether? This seems like a weird position to take. It's not easy to read through comments and stories on most mobile browsers. It requires you to either squint to read the headlines or scroll horizontally just to read across the lines. That is a broken user experience.

I've actually found pinching and zooming to be more than adequate... And even a bit of squinting I find acceptable because it lets me easily skim a page for content. When I have to scroll forever just to find the content I'm looking for its frustrating and a waste of my time.

Or news websites that start hiding the actual content on mobile, so you're forced to "tap" the headline to even read the summary.

Or in the case of github or stack overflow, the formatting is so illegible, I can't believe they released 'em. They've made it harder to read.

Mobile is about fast access. Letting me get my information on the go... When mobile is a different experience it craps on that goal because I cannot access information as fast. I must now learn this new thing; which, is a the opposite of why I have a smartphone (fast information).

For my use cases is vastly worse. The desktop versions of most sites have more features and allow for faster access of information. Maybe I have to zoom in, that's okay! It's a better experience in the end.

Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

#84

The joke is that max-scale and initial-scale set to 1.0 in the viewport meta tag would probably be all that's needed to make HN better on mobile.

Yes, but unfortunately that would be a quick, effective solution. In no way does it entail startups being accelerated into making mobile apps that disrupt some trivial aspect of daily life.

As "Ricardo Montalban" used to say on SNL, it is better to look good than to feel good. Likewise it is better to reinvent the wheel than to fix it.

Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

#86

I think it looks fine. Everytime someone wants to make a mobile experience better, I want to kill a kitten. More often than not it makes vastly worse. Why can't people just keep it to themselves. Steve Jobs and Co. gave me a real browser so I didn't have to use a sub-par web. Now everyone is forcing it on me anyway. Stop. Please stop. Half of the websites I use have been ruined by responsive, and or enhancing, the mo…

Are you against bad mobile implementations or just mobile implementations altogether? This seems like a weird position to take. It's not easy to read through comments and stories on most mobile browsers. It requires you to either squint to read the headlines or scroll horizontally just to read across the lines. That is a broken user experience.

I hate any mobile implementation on tablets, my iPad 4 has a high resolution, almost 10" display and can easily handle a full screen implementation yet some websites force mobile upon it.

Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

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It's a blank white page in opera mobile whereas the normal hn style works pretty.

That's weird. I'll be looking into it.

before you waste time with some "software that does exist, just like there never was a matrix sequel", I use opera mobile classic or what's it called.

Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

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It looks fine on the iPhone 5 http://imgur.com/i3fEdol No massive text size , more than 5 words per line ,etc

The default HN experience isn't so great on Android's browser... http://i.imgur.com/TEUoGrT.jpg

double-tap to zoom and all is good.

Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

#89

I'm resigned to the fact this website will never improve at all.

Personally, I believe that this layout deters those who might not be as serious about the content HN brings to the table. The type of person who would judge this website based on its simplistic layout is probably the same type of person who wouldn't read half of the articles posted, or contribute to the conversations at all.

The issue isn't with the simplistic layout, it is with illegibility of the site on mobile devices.

Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

#90

I'm resigned to the fact this website will never improve at all.

Personally, I believe that this layout deters those who might not be as serious about the content HN brings to the table. The type of person who would judge this website based on its simplistic layout is probably the same type of person who wouldn't read half of the articles posted, or contribute to the conversations at all.

This is not about design or layout, it's about antiquated and unacceptable code. You could fix all the problems I'm complaining about and not change the look or feel one pixel. I'm actually surprised that any programmer worth a nickel including PG can stomach keeping such poor code in production.
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