The whole point of this is wrong... The internet is free, content shouldn't be blocked for legal reasons
should != is
And the distance between them is measured as response code 451
Campaign for a new HTTP Error code: 451 - Blocked for legal reasons
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Re: Campaign for a new HTTP Error code: 451 - Blocked for legal reasons
#82Surprised no one has made any reference to Farenheit 451. Allow me to be the first. Thankfully websites are not flammable.
I'm also surprised (this Error Code was first mentioned, as far as I know, when Ray Bradbury died)… but I like the subtle Element of not Mentioning it.
Re: Campaign for a new HTTP Error code: 451 - Blocked for legal reasons
#83452 Blocked for reasons which may or may not be legal but I probably shouldn't say either way
Re: Campaign for a new HTTP Error code: 451 - Blocked for legal reasons
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, but that's true of other standards. Eg, I can start putting tags in my HTML if I want. The issue is whether anyone else will expect this tag or code and do anything meaningful with it.
I get what you mean but I don't think this is the same thing. HTML has a DTD, something that people conform to when writing, so your tag would not follow that guideline, whereas companies like Twitter can implement their own error codes as they see fit. See error code 420, Enhance Your Calm.[0] [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTTP_status_codes
> HTML has a DTD
Tangentially to your point, that's only true of the 4.x and earlier versions of HTML which are SGML applications, WHATWG HTML / W3C HTML5 is not SGML-based and does not have a DTD.
Re: Campaign for a new HTTP Error code: 451 - Blocked for legal reasons
#85Unfortunately, that page return 200 OK.
Why does not it return 451 status code?
Re: Campaign for a new HTTP Error code: 451 - Blocked for legal reasons
#86Surely this should be within the 5xx range of status codes? I get there's a reference to be had using 451 but this is more of a server error than client.
I was about to write a +1, but then I realised: - 4xx isn't appropriate as it's not a client error. - 5xx isn't appropriate because it's not a server error either.
I think it is a 4xx client error, and not necessarily one that needs a new status code. It seems to me that it is a fairly simple case of 403 Forbidden:
The server understood the request, but is refusing to
fulfill it. Authorization will not help and the request
SHOULD NOT be repeated. If the request method was not HEAD
and the server wishes to make public why the request has
not been fulfilled, it SHOULD describe the reason for the
refusal in the entity. If the server does not wish to make
this information available to the client, the status code
404 (Not Found) can be used instead.Re: Campaign for a new HTTP Error code: 451 - Blocked for legal reasons
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was about to write a +1, but then I realised: - 4xx isn't appropriate as it's not a client error. - 5xx isn't appropriate because it's not a server error either.
I think it is a 4xx client error, and not necessarily one that needs a new status code. It seems to me that it is a fairly simple case of 403 Forbidden: The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it. Authorization will not help and the request SHOULD NOT be repeated. If the request method was not HEAD and the server wishes to make public why the request has not been fulfilled, it SHOULD describe th…
From http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html
"10.4 Client Error 4xx
The 4xx class of status code is intended for cases in which the client seems to have erred. "
The client has not erred by requested a document that exists and which the server can technically provide (separately, the server has not erred by refusing to provide a document to the client which the exists and which access control would allow the client to have, because a government is threatening the server operator in some manner).
Re: Campaign for a new HTTP Error code: 451 - Blocked for legal reasons
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
could you post some authoritative proof/references for the black boxes?
Authorative: http://minsvyaz.ru/common/upload/prikaz_16-01-2008_N6.pdf (sorry, the document's in Russian and I can't find any translation, nor skilled enough to do that myself) - I'm not a lawyer, but in my understanding (as I was explained) this decree contains requirements to networks that ISPs must conform to (otherwise they can't get the license and provide services), and it states (in thick legalese) that all su…
thank you very much!
Re: Campaign for a new HTTP Error code: 451 - Blocked for legal reasons
#89Re: Campaign for a new HTTP Error code: 451 - Blocked for legal reasons
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it is a 4xx client error, and not necessarily one that needs a new status code. It seems to me that it is a fairly simple case of 403 Forbidden: The server understood the request, but is refusing to fulfill it. Authorization will not help and the request SHOULD NOT be repeated. If the request method was not HEAD and the server wishes to make public why the request has not been fulfilled, it SHOULD describe th…
From http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html "10.4 Client Error 4xx The 4xx class of status code is intended for cases in which the client seems to have erred. " The client has not erred by requested a document that exists and which the server can technically provide (separately, the server has not erred by refusing to provide a document to the client which the exists and which access control would all…
> The client has not erred by requested a document that exists and which the server can technically provide
The client has erred in requesting a document which the server is legally forbidden to provide to that client. As specified for 403, the server understands the request and refuses to fulfill it.
Admittedly, a hypothetical 6xx Third-Party Interference series of error codes might be useful for these kind of cases (and some instances currently handled by 503.)