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David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children can't believe that people still fall for this shtick

Do you have kids?

Hi, kid here. A world where I don't worry about the swat busting into my house at 3AM to arrest me for my playboy collection[0] is preferable to the one where I see pop up ads with double penetration in them when I'm 8. (Which I did, I'm fine.)

[0]: Or the government censors whatever they like with their filtering infrastructure.

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

#82
post #38

TL;DR - "Yea I guess, but..." Personally I don't have huge a problem with the default filtering; most households (with or without kids) don't have the knowledge to effectively enable filtering for all their devices - giving them 'protection' by default, and allowing the option to have full access is currently what most - maybe all - mobile phone operators do in the UK anyway in 3G/GSM connections. However, its import…

Targeted ads would be the least of my worries. What concerns me is fascist governments deciding they get to filter whatever they're contempt with. Such censorship doesn't fit well with civil liberties, we know this from other countries which already have nation-wide filtering.

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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post #12

> Every household in Britain connected to the internet will be obliged to declare whether they want to maintain access to online pornography These declarations will only be used to shame public figures once the list is leaked. > The possession of "extreme pornography", which includes scenes of simulated rape, is to be outlawed. Video footage of two consenting adults, acting out a scene, will be illegal to own. With t…

And on top of this, they want to create a database of all of child porn. ( What could possibly go wrong?)

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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post #79
post #8

Meh. I doubt the Tories have a clean house in this regard. Every time some politician or other 'moral leader' starts pontificating about moral panic, I get suspicious that they're just trying to ban their vice. Clearly if they're so vocally opposed to it, they mustn't be partaking, right? Glenn Loury and cocaine. Mark Foley and the exploitation of children. Eliot Spitzer and prostitution. John Ensign and 'family valu…

A 2011 survey found that 80% of 18-24 males in the UK had watched porn online[1]. I'm comfortable assuming that a significant percentage of Tories have or do watch it as well. [1]: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/12918531

And 20% lie about not watching it...

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

#85
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In one way we got what we asked for. Whenever the argument was made that Google, British Telecom, et al, had a "moral duty" to censor pornography, we were able to simply say that this was an empty argument and that the only duty the companies had was to follow the law of the land. Now, by changing the law, the companies have a legal duty. That is what I and others have wanted, censorship is something we are able to a…

Now it's the duty of the people to pressure their government from making these absurd tools for Fascism.

The people will truly be able to be trusted with the ability to do their democratic duty....

You know, when 20% of the population of Canada elects a Majority government that can do whatever it wants for 4 years because of voter apathy, I'm wary of the trust that should be placed in the people. But where the hell is it supposed to go?!

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

#86
post #47

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children can't believe that people still fall for this shtick

Do you have kids?

I wonder where my kid is supposed to get his porn once he get's older. Did anybody think of that?

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post #83
post #12

> Every household in Britain connected to the internet will be obliged to declare whether they want to maintain access to online pornography These declarations will only be used to shame public figures once the list is leaked. > The possession of "extreme pornography", which includes scenes of simulated rape, is to be outlawed. Video footage of two consenting adults, acting out a scene, will be illegal to own. With t…

And on top of this, they want to create a database of all of child porn. ( What could possibly go wrong?)

Most law enforcement agencies have something of that sort. From what I understand, what they distribute is a database of hashes to identify files. I don't know if the original material is preserved.

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post #83
post #12

> Every household in Britain connected to the internet will be obliged to declare whether they want to maintain access to online pornography These declarations will only be used to shame public figures once the list is leaked. > The possession of "extreme pornography", which includes scenes of simulated rape, is to be outlawed. Video footage of two consenting adults, acting out a scene, will be illegal to own. With t…

And on top of this, they want to create a database of all of child porn. ( What could possibly go wrong?)

We already have that in the UK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleanfeed_(content_blocking_sys...

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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post #83
post #12

> Every household in Britain connected to the internet will be obliged to declare whether they want to maintain access to online pornography These declarations will only be used to shame public figures once the list is leaked. > The possession of "extreme pornography", which includes scenes of simulated rape, is to be outlawed. Video footage of two consenting adults, acting out a scene, will be illegal to own. With t…

And on top of this, they want to create a database of all of child porn. ( What could possibly go wrong?)

American ISPs have such a shared database through NCMEC.

It's not widely advertised because they'd like to claim such a thing is impossible, to avoid the music industry.

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

#90
post #8

Meh. I doubt the Tories have a clean house in this regard. Every time some politician or other 'moral leader' starts pontificating about moral panic, I get suspicious that they're just trying to ban their vice. Clearly if they're so vocally opposed to it, they mustn't be partaking, right? Glenn Loury and cocaine. Mark Foley and the exploitation of children. Eliot Spitzer and prostitution. John Ensign and 'family valu…

Spitzer was a dem who became a target of banks and credit institutions afraid of his cracking down on their anti-consumer business practices. He was Elizabeth Warren before Elizabeth Warren, and deserves more respect than to be pigeonholed as a politician with his pigeon in a hole.

From Wikipedia: "Spitzer used this authority in his civil actions against corporations and criminal prosecutions against their officers." Damn shame.

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