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Post by josefresco »

ritchiea wrote: post #61
dwyer wrote: post #42

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> when visiting a city. Click tourist and avoid So you're too good to be a tourist when you're a tourist? You sound like a hipster. > click hipster and go there Oh wait... But in all seriousness, if I go to Rome, I want to see The Colosseum. If I go to Amsterdam, I want to see the Van Gogh Museum. Not being a tourist somewhere means having already seen what the tourists there are just seeing for the first time. Would…

Or you could see historic landmarks during the day and explore restaurants and bars local residents actually enjoy in the evenings. Restaurants that cater to tourists do so because you can profit off of their unfamiliarity with the area without having to provide a competitive dining experience in a municipality that broadly offers many excellent dining options. Wanting to find a plethora of interesting experiences wh…

How does being a tourist based business mean you don't have to "provide a competitive dining experience". Sure local based businesses have to cater to local residents in order to win repeat business but that doesn't stop for tourism. People vacation in the same places each year, the businesses that do well are ones that not only cater to these visitors, but leave a lasting impression. Top business get reviewed by publications/websites and generally do better if they provide a competitive product.

Don't let the exceptions (aka tourists traps) cloud the rule which is fairly globally true no matter what sector you operate in.

Disclosure: I live and work (B2B) in a primarily tourist based economy. I talk every day with business owners who cater to tourists, locals and part-time residents. Tourist traps that do well despite shitty service are rare.

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Post by kryten »

kami8845 wrote: post #77
kryten wrote: post #63

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Depends what you are after and what city. Having mistakenly bought a house in a hipster infested area of London a few years ago, I wouldn't recommend your approach unless your idea of a good night out is doing copious amounts of coke in front of children out with their parents, getting pissed and vomiting over the pavement (sidewalk), getting your iPhone nicked and then wading through broken glass until you get to yo…

If you go to the London hipster map. I live square dead in the middle of it (the Shoreditch triangle). Granted I've only lived here for 4 months but the only 2 bad things that I've seen were: 1) Someone puked in the alleyway that leads to my door. I walked around it. 2) One day when coming home at 11pm, there were people smoking weed in front of my door and one guy was pissing against the building close to my door. I…

This was shoreditch. Don't forget between city road and shoreditch is one of the worst estates in London. You must have been lucky but we had constant problems 2-3 times a week.

Sold up and bought a nice place in Strawberry Hill for the same money and am awarded with peace and quiet and literally zero crime and antisocial behaviour. Everyone is either financial and/or tech, legal or medical as well.

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Post by tracker1 »

natrius wrote: post #34
tracker1 wrote: post #23

And another one.. this one doesn't have Phoenix or San Antonio.. I mean there are a LOT of techie types in Phoenix and other cities in the top 10 excluded... it's not all "creative" most of the development here is more business oriented.. I just really get sick of these types of things not taking into account some of the largest cities in the country. I'm just getting really, really tired of living in the 6th largest…

I'm pretty sure Yelp has actual usage data that provides a better signal of which cities are worth the effort than population. Plus, trendy cities get talked about more than non-trendy ones by definition. More people care where hipsters hang out in Austin than where they hang out in Phoenix even though Austin is pretty small in the grand scheme of things.

The problem is, in not including the top 10 most populated cities in the US in things like this, they exclude a lot of the nation. This example in particular may not be great... but I am constantly seeing posts about new service X that doesn't include even the top 5 most populated cities... It's like excluding a large part of potential users. It's similar to releasing an IE-only site today.

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Post by jmccree »

furyg3 wrote: post #76
dwyer wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> when visiting a city. Click tourist and avoid So you're too good to be a tourist when you're a tourist? You sound like a hipster. > click hipster and go there Oh wait... But in all seriousness, if I go to Rome, I want to see The Colosseum. If I go to Amsterdam, I want to see the Van Gogh Museum. Not being a tourist somewhere means having already seen what the tourists there are just seeing for the first time. Would…

It has nothing to do with being a hipster, just different tastes. If you come to Amsterdam and go to the Red Light, Museumplein, and Heineken brewery, that's one experience, but most Amsterdammers are never at those places. They're having a picnic in Westerpark, and beers on a terrace at Browerij 't IJ... Same with SF... I grew up there, but I've never been to Alcatraz, and I think I've been to Pier 39 once when I wa…

Wow, your post brought back such great memories of my first trip to Amsterdam. Visiting the Van Gogh museum, walking through the red light district, having savory pancakes at a famous place... while all fun, are not the experiences I remember. Taking the tour and tasting at Browerij 't IJ, grocery shopping for a BBQ with a local friend in Muiderpoort, eating Bitterballen, the random pub I hung out in waiting for my tour of the Utrecht Tower... Those are things that I will always remember.

There is nothing hipster about wanting to experience things locals regularly do. There is also nothing wrong with doing touristy things. I love the pictures I took at "The Bean" in Chicago, or climbing the steps of the Utrecht Dom Tower. If you /love/ classical art, then the Van Gough museum or Louvre are must sees, otherwise I agree that in 20 years it'll just be a checkbox "I've been to the Louvre!". For me, it comes down to that I remember more experiences with people than with things.

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Post by vmialik »

hammock wrote: post #82
iharris wrote: post #3

Try the "sketchy" keyword... is that the infamous Tenderloin that I hear about? (I haven't been to SF before)

The keyword sets seem to differ across the cities, can't find sketchy for my town.

Most cities have sketchy places, what is unique about Tenderloin, it has hole-in-the-wall restaurants that are actually quite good. So you go in to a place and might say in the review, this place looks sketchy, but the food is great. As apposed to purely sketchy place that you do not even want to go in to. So you do not go or leave a review. Another possibility are the massage parlors, which are truly sketchy. I learned that having the opportunity to sit in at the SF Coalition Against Human Trafficking which is a collaboration between the non profits and the government organizations in the city fighting the issue.

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Post by wittysense »

dwyer wrote: post #45
wittysense wrote: post #41

Yelp does not like Tor.

Yelp is very aggressive against crawlers. They IP banned me for curl'ing their site a few times for something or another that their API didn't provide. I had to email them and promise never to do it again. I'd imagine it has provoked some to attempt to crawl them via Tor. I just use the Open Table API instead.

! Cheers to the tip.
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