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Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by shelltreader »

jmharvey wrote: post #72
kamakazizuru wrote: post #27

am I the only one who doesnt find the sites that similar after all? Or to put it another way - neither of them seem particularly unique (fixed header, slider on top, broad sections and large footer) compared to many marketing sites these days?

Styles, like fashion, follow trends. But the similarities on these sites go well beyond just similar trends, especially once you're beyond the main page. The copy on the "Services" page is probably the most damning: We provide a wide array of software design and development services -- from Mobile applications and Web applications to User interface design, Quality assurance and Digital Strategy -- we're a trusted par…

That's not good enough; it's too common. Sentence structure can't be copyrighted, just as common design elements can't be copyrighted. Show us HTML or CSS blocks that are exactly the same or slightly tweaked on both websites.

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by kstop »

heyitsnick wrote: post #68
tokenadult wrote: post #65

When I was in high school, in an English class unit on journalism, I learned how the United Press caught a competing news organization (Hearst, as I recall) faking stories about the eastern front in World War I. The United Press reporters inserted details about a Russian government official named Nelotsky in their news stories, and watched the statements about Nelotsky get copied into reports from the competing wire…

That's a great story about Nelotsky, I hadn't heard that before. For those interested, these fake entries to catch copyright infringement are commonly referred to as "Mountweazels". They are common in maps (fake towns, roads) and dictionaries (fake words and definitions). You can read more on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictitious_entry

Also catching on in celebrity baby photos: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/kim-karda...

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by shelltreader »

mintplant wrote: post #40
kamakazizuru wrote: post #27

am I the only one who doesnt find the sites that similar after all? Or to put it another way - neither of them seem particularly unique (fixed header, slider on top, broad sections and large footer) compared to many marketing sites these days?

- The scrolling animations on the header are exactly the same. - The curved/depressed backgrounds behind the hero image (fairly unique) are the same shape and style. - Page sizing is the same. - Color scheme is the same, with blue swapped out for red. These are just from glancing quickly between the two sites. Combined with the overall similarity, the fact that the scrolling animation is exactly the same is the most…

Err, their color schemes are not the same. And stop glancing at it. I want to see something real that's shows deliberate plagiarism.

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by Samuel_Michon »

“Pablo Picasso said the famous words: "Good artists copy, great artists steal". But you shouldn't take that all too literally though. Inspiration is one thing - it happens all the time, especially in the design world. But there is a very obvious line between copying and inspiration.”

Actually, it was Steve Jobs who said that. Jobs attributed it to Picasso, but there’s no record of Picasso saying anything of the sort.

T.S. Eliot did write something like it:

“One of the surest tests [of the superiority or inferiority of a poet] is the way in which a poet borrows. Immature poets imitate; mature poets steal; bad poets deface what they take, and good poets make it into something better, or at least something different. The good poet welds his theft into a whole of feeling which is unique, utterly different than that from which it is torn; the bad poet throws it into something which has no cohesion. A good poet will usually borrow from authors remote in time, or alien in language, or diverse in interest.”

That quote was subsequently used in a biography of Picasso by John Richardson. That's probably how Jobs came to remember it as a quote by Picasso.

http://nancyprager.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/good-poets-borro...

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by tracker1 »

kamakazizuru wrote: post #27

am I the only one who doesnt find the sites that similar after all? Or to put it another way - neither of them seem particularly unique (fixed header, slider on top, broad sections and large footer) compared to many marketing sites these days?

Looking at the code, it looks like the Infinum site is using a bootstrap base, but a fairly customized navbar, and that the kintek site is using something else... the structure of the markup is similar, but definitely different, as well as the difference in CSS classes.

Yes, there are similarities, but I have no reason to believe that one is a ripoff of another. They're both pretty bog-standard bootstrap-like marketing sites.

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by HNaTTY »

heyitsnick wrote: post #69
icco wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure about what OP was thinking, but I felt the same way. The article seemed to have mixed messages. One was, "how dare you steal from us" and the other was "Everyone steals". Looking at the two sites, they were both using such common web design styles these days, that I would have assumed they both based their site off of someone else's. If I were them, I would have stuck to the second argument, realized tha…

I think they're just having fun and making light of a crappy situation.

And also showing off their design chops. What better way to show how much you care about design than to defend your site versus its copy?

Personally, I plan to steal their idea for changing the title of a page when it loses focus. Not today, but some day.

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by kenperkins »

Samuel_Michon wrote: post #84

“Pablo Picasso said the famous words: "Good artists copy, great artists steal". But you shouldn't take that all too literally though. Inspiration is one thing - it happens all the time, especially in the design world. But there is a very obvious line between copying and inspiration.” Actually, it was Steve Jobs who said that. Jobs attributed it to Picasso, but there’s no record of Picasso saying anything of the sort.…

This has been addressed on http://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/03/06/artists-steal/

tl;dr:

In conclusion, in 1892 an important precursor of this family of expressions was published. The author was W. H. Davenport Adams, and his words may have influenced the version that T. H. Eliot published in 1920.

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by davorak »

CodeMage wrote: post #74

I was born 34 years ago in Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. In the 20 years I lived there, I never met anyone who killed a bear with their bare hands, but I've met plenty of people with the same brutish, thuggish humor, who thought that kind of stuff was hilarious. If there's one thing I would like to say to Tomislav, it's this: I'm proud of our nations' history and cultural heritage -- some shared, some not…

> don't do this.

Your message would probably come across clearer if you add a concrete example the behavior you want avoided and what you think the consequences are for not doing so.

Re: How to properly plagiarize a website

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Post by gngeal »

jmharvey wrote: post #72
kamakazizuru wrote: post #27

am I the only one who doesnt find the sites that similar after all? Or to put it another way - neither of them seem particularly unique (fixed header, slider on top, broad sections and large footer) compared to many marketing sites these days?

Styles, like fashion, follow trends. But the similarities on these sites go well beyond just similar trends, especially once you're beyond the main page. The copy on the "Services" page is probably the most damning: We provide a wide array of software design and development services -- from Mobile applications and Web applications to User interface design, Quality assurance and Digital Strategy -- we're a trusted par…

By "damning", are you referring to the parroting of the silly use of capital letters?
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