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US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies in broad secret program

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Re: US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies in broad secret program

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Yes, this is bad. Yes, you are right to be upset. Yes you (not not really me, I'm not American and i avoid american hosting and hosting companies like amazon for exactly this reason) should change that. But honestly, are you surprised? Are you really? Government agencies have be building large datacenters, the EU loves data retention. There was no tin foil head required to see this.

I assumed this was already happening and surprised it's news.

Re: US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies in broad secret program

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post #61
post #29

Yes, this is bad. Yes, you are right to be upset. Yes you (not not really me, I'm not American and i avoid american hosting and hosting companies like amazon for exactly this reason) should change that. But honestly, are you surprised? Are you really? Government agencies have be building large datacenters, the EU loves data retention. There was no tin foil head required to see this.

When people wanted to talk about this kind of massive wiretapping program years ago, they were called paranoid nutcases. Now that the truth is coming out, people who want to talk about it are called out for belaboring the obvious. I see this "are you so naive as to be surprised?" reaction in almost every thread about this. It's some kind of defense mechanism.

>I see this "are you so naive as to be surprised?" reaction in almost every thread about this. It's some kind of defense mechanism.

That's why I'm saying you are right to be upset.

I like the saying "being paranoid does not mean they are not after you". And being paranoid turned out to be realistic.

Re: US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies in broad secret program

#83
I am so happy this is finally getting media coverage. I'm sick and tired of being called 'paranoid' whenever I say it's obvious this is what the NSA is doing with their enormous data centers.

This is STILL just the tip of the iceberg. I really hope the whistle blowers continue to release details of more and more of these secret programs. If people think this is as bad as it gets they're in for quite a shock. Call metadata, all your private files, and the people you stalk on Facebook are nothing.

How about access to your laptop's webcam and microphone? How about the two cameras and the microphone on the smartphone you carry with you everywhere? How about the exact GPS location of your phone every minute of the day? How about aggregating the CCTV and traffic camera footage with facial recognition to give a full video/audio recording of you everywhere you go every day? How about all of your credit card purchases aggregated, plotted on map, used to determine your habits?

Re: US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies in broad secret program

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I'm saddened to see Dropbox on the list. Did they choose to participate or is it mandatory? In any case, we've moved several projects to BTSync recently from Dropbox (for no other reason than to free up space on Dropbox for our personal files) and have been enjoying the service. As a p2p encrypted protocol, I imagine it's much more difficult to eavesdrop on your files and would actually require a warrant to obtain. I…

Is there an open source dropbox-style app that I can install on my own server?

Re: US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies in broad secret program

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The spineless, reprehensible CEOs are doing it willingly.

This is unsubstantiated speculation.

not unsubstantiated: http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/6/6/4403868/nsa-fbi-mine-dat...

Re: US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies in broad secret program

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's described for a couple of the cooperating corporations in the article. For example, for Facebook, the analyst goes to a special webpage/site at Facebook, then they simply clicks through a "Yep, this person is a terrorist" EULA and they have full access to Facebook's database (eg. full access to user content). I bet they rejoiced when Facebook Graph opened shop.

Move fast and break the Constitution.

How is Facebook sharing their database with the government breaking the constitution?

Re: US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies in broad secret program

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but now there is proof, which should make a difference. How are all of these not cases for impeachment? If Fox News thought Obama should be impeached over Benghazi, they should love this.

Funny thing though... if Fox goes after Obama over this, it's tacitly admitting that Bush was evil too. I doubt they'll do that.

Oh I dunno. Having watched The Daily Show for years, Fox have no problem with some incredible contradictions and saying the exact opposite of what they one said. If they can label Obama as a Muslim communist traitor, they will forget that Bush ever existed.
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