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John Gruber and friends launch Vesper note capture app

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Re: John Gruber and friends launch Vesper note capture app

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Post by state »

marbletiles wrote: post #54

Thinking that sync is optional is a really weird thing that seems to linger in the Apple world. You know the old William Gibson line that cyberspace is the place where telephone conversations happen? Not in the hardware at either end, but in the "space between"? Computing has moved there too. Work used to happen on a device and then was transferred to other devices, either manually (floppies, email) or later automati…

I have been trying to put my finger on this for a while. This is what bothers me so much about Dropbox.

Re: John Gruber and friends launch Vesper note capture app

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Post by frou_dh »

josephlord wrote: post #68
marbletiles wrote: post #54

Thinking that sync is optional is a really weird thing that seems to linger in the Apple world. You know the old William Gibson line that cyberspace is the place where telephone conversations happen? Not in the hardware at either end, but in the "space between"? Computing has moved there too. Work used to happen on a device and then was transferred to other devices, either manually (floppies, email) or later automati…

I find sync that requires an account a negative factor. There are many notes I wouldn't want to share with Google. Also as soon as you offer sync you need to have a conflict resolution approach and there is no way to always resolve in a clean way without user intervention.

The time for punting on sync because it's too hard or inconvenient can't last indefinitely in the industry...

Re: John Gruber and friends launch Vesper note capture app

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Post by frenchy »

rednukleus wrote: post #65
kloncks wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never. It's Gruber.

Honest question - what is it with these Apple fanatics not wanting to write any software ever for Android, Windows, Linux or anything not Apple? Is it just spite?

It's probably because they see so much software that only works for Windows, or only works out-of-the box for Linux, they want something that makes their platform of choice special.

Re: John Gruber and friends launch Vesper note capture app

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Post by frou_dh »

nicholassmith wrote: post #62
tptacek wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't an app like this be doable in a weekend? Paul Graham, I know you can hear me, and I know this is possible because I know a thing or two about the Javascripts, and so I'm telling you now: the site's banner should strobe clown colors for 5 minutes every time news.arc sees this string.

Think of all the strings that cold be extended out to as well. If there's any justice in the world this will be at least an option.

Topical clownstrobe proposal: "nothing to hide"

Re: John Gruber and friends launch Vesper note capture app

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Post by csomar »

monkey_slap wrote: post #26

I'm not sure I'm understanding the point of this tool. It looks trendy, but it takes notes. No syncing. I mean, this is the guy that wrote NetNewsWire. Wouldn't an app like this be doable in a weekend? I honestly want to find something new that the app does that is supposed to change my workflow, but there is just nothing. A cynical part of me feels like this exists (especially with the $5 price tag) just to ride the…

Seriously, so you aren't aware of that from the beginning?

I'll try to give you a scaled perspective:

1. Announce in your site that you are going to give a speech.

2. Obama announces that he is going to give a speech.

There is high probability that your speech is going to be more interesting, entertaining and informing. However, your viewers are going to be close to 0, and Obama is watched by the entire world and covered by major medias.

Re: John Gruber and friends launch Vesper note capture app

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Post by csomar »

People who complain about the $5 price tag: How many coffees do you buy per day?

Now, I don't drink coffee (dry eyes issues) and I'm not an app store shopaholic. However, if there is something of interest, I'm not going to complain about the lack of x and y and the high price.

The price is already too low.

Re: John Gruber and friends launch Vesper note capture app

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Post by corresation »

kloncks wrote: post #25
samtp wrote: post #5

When will the Android version be released?

Never. It's Gruber.

Gruber seems to have moderated somewhat, and while he still does the snarky "winning" thing and is abnormally interested in marketshare/profits, I would not be surprised if an Android version comes later.

His prior partner in spirit, Arment, however, has only entrenched more than ever in his bias.

Re: John Gruber and friends launch Vesper note capture app

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Post by frou_dh »

rednukleus wrote: post #65
kloncks wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never. It's Gruber.

Honest question - what is it with these Apple fanatics not wanting to write any software ever for Android, Windows, Linux or anything not Apple? Is it just spite?

That's an odd question because it frames people exercising freedom to choose what they spend their own time on as unreasonable.

Do you choose your own activities, necessarily not choosing others, out of spite?

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