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Banyan, the "GitHub of Science", is now in public beta

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Re: Banyan, the "GitHub of Science", is now in public beta

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Hi Mason! Thanks, there are more of us every day! Check out http://noogastartups.com I think Tennessee is the next great startup state.

Really? That's great to here. I'm a student at UT and do some research at Oak Ridge. I've always been interested in startups and would like to start my own at some point or join a small team. Banyan looks great. I've been mentioning Github to my advisor, but I think this is much more suitable.

I went to UT and started and did research at ORNL. I left in 2011 to start a startup in Chattanooga (Colocated with Banyan). Tenneessee (specifically Chattanooga) is a great place to start a company. There's good funding, low cost of living and a pretty nice talent pool.

Re: Banyan, the "GitHub of Science", is now in public beta

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I don't get it. I can't see any information on the homepage that makes it different from just using github.

Our main two differences from github is that we built banyan to be version control for "humans". Our mac application for example is extremely simple to use, and was designed with an 18 year old undergraduate/55 year old lab veteran in mind. Banyan was designed to be the middle ground of collaboration for users who know git with people who have no idea what git is (and in most cases, cant be bothered to learn another…

Out of curiosity, why is underscore.js the sample repo on your homepage?

Re: Banyan, the "GitHub of Science", is now in public beta

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How does your product compare with http://www.openscienceframework.org/ ? As a scientist, I'm inclined to trust OSF more, since it's run by other scientists, fully open source, and doesn't need to make a profit. At the moment, OSF seems more focused on tools to facilitate collaboration and less focused on replicating functionality currently available on GitHub, although it sounds like they use git as a backend and ev…

I'm a recovering PhD. OSF looks pretty cool. By the way OSF costs money if it is done by scientists. Those scientists get paid by someone. They spent shit ton of money (in form of salaries + time) building it + publishing it. Science works on government grants, i.e. taxpayer money. It is actually a fairly profitable industry, and NIH grants are the biggest contributor to capital expenditure of US Research Universitie…

Sure, OSF costs money, but VC-funded startups are under pressure to monetize their customer bases, whereas grant-funded projects just need to make something useful enough to justify continued investment. There's the obvious risk is that a VC-funded company will make its money off of selling your private information. (I don't think this is very likely, but I trust Brian Nosek a lot more than I trust most startups.) The bigger issue is that VC-funded companies need to keep a tight leash on their product, whereas grant-funded projects are free to grow in a distributed fashion. While ordinary people are happy to live within the limits of their software, scientists like to explore new frontiers, and it sucks when our software can't take us there. This is why I firmly believe that software (and preferably hardware) that scientists use to do science needs to be open source.

I'm not sure I'd call grant income that gets reinvested in infrastructure and educational expenditures "profit." Not only do private corporations buy shiny buildings, but they also have a legal obligation to make as much money for their shareholders as they possibly can. MIT doesn't.

Re: Banyan, the "GitHub of Science", is now in public beta

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This looks like a great and useful service. I'm going to give it a try. However, I tried signing up for "Banyan for Mac," but whatever email I provided was said to be invalid!

Back up now!

I am having the same problem.

Re: Banyan, the "GitHub of Science", is now in public beta

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I'm a recovering PhD. OSF looks pretty cool. By the way OSF costs money if it is done by scientists. Those scientists get paid by someone. They spent shit ton of money (in form of salaries + time) building it + publishing it. Science works on government grants, i.e. taxpayer money. It is actually a fairly profitable industry, and NIH grants are the biggest contributor to capital expenditure of US Research Universitie…

Sure, OSF costs money, but VC-funded startups are under pressure to monetize their customer bases, whereas grant-funded projects just need to make something useful enough to justify continued investment. There's the obvious risk is that a VC-funded company will make its money off of selling your private information. (I don't think this is very likely, but I trust Brian Nosek a lot more than I trust most startups.) Th…

While I can agree with the spirit of your message, OTOH...

> Not only do private corporations buy shiny buildings, but they also have a legal obligation to make as much money for their shareholders as they possibly can.

This seems to be a popular belief, but it's simply not true. Private companies have no legal requirement to make profits or pay dividends. Even public companies, do not have to by law, maximize profits ("make as much money").[1] Corporate officers do of course, have an obligation to act in the best interests of the company, and have maintain certain fiduciary duties.

[1] http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/8146/are-u-s-com...

Re: Banyan, the "GitHub of Science", is now in public beta

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Within the first 60 seconds your site does not answer the question "why would I want to use this rather than Github?". I'm not sure most people will spend even 60 seconds trying to find an answer to that question, so you might want to figure out a way to show/tell.
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