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Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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I find it very interesting, that there are such websites. I wonder whether it works, but I guess that if only one life is saved by a notice on a website, that is enough

Well if you truly meant one life saved fair enough. So you'd have to deducted the people killed in making sites like these first. So a web site is possibly $40,000. A humans life in the US is probably worth around $2,000,000. So it might cost one 50th of a humans life to create a site like this. I'd guess not, but the figures are complicated, the site is used for other things for starters. I'd suspect a suicide help…

There are things at play other than life or death. Let's say you work on campus. There's a shooting and you're freaking out and there all kinds of rumors circulating about what you should do. When's it safe to leave? Should you evacuate? etc. Having a central place where all of that is available is valuable to a huge number of people. Multiply that number by whatever monetary value you attach to that peace of mind and you end up with something that certainly justifies the cost.

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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An MIT police officer was killed. A university police officer has died after being shot on the Massachusetts Institute of Technology campus in Cambridge late Thursday, according to state police. http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/cambridge-gunshots/index.ht...

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Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was at MIT, I don't recall a single on-campus shooting.

A fair number of muggings with knives/guns in Cambridge, though. (I had someone pull a knife on me near the Harvard Bridge Boston side late at night). "On campus" is kind of a more vague thing with MIT than with some other schools, since it was in the 1990s and before a very open campus in the middle of a city, with a few major roads running through it.

I agree the "on campus" line for MIT can be pretty fuzzy (between the open campus, frats/ILGs across the river in Boston and so on).

That being said, there are more objective measures we could use, such as "made The Tech" (outside the police log), which this already has.

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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An MIT police officer was killed. A university police officer has died after being shot on the Massachusetts Institute of Technology campus in Cambridge late Thursday, according to state police. http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/us/cambridge-gunshots/index.ht...

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The Tech is "MIT's oldest and largest newspaper". https://twitter.com/thetech

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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Don't wish to make light of this at all, but I do wonder- how often does this happen? After all, "shots fired" is not an uncommon thing in many cities in the US. I just wonder whether we will look back in 12 months time at the "week of hell" and realise that it was actually just a week in which we found all the things that usually go on every week that we don't hear about.

When I was at MIT, I don't recall a single on-campus shooting.

Somewhere around 2004 someone was shot in the head at a restaurant across from Random Hall as part of some drug related dispute. I heard the shot, but thought at first it was part of a video game my friend was playing. And that cook at the student center was stabbed not that long ago in some other dispute not related to students.

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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Don't wish to make light of this at all, but I do wonder- how often does this happen? After all, "shots fired" is not an uncommon thing in many cities in the US. I just wonder whether we will look back in 12 months time at the "week of hell" and realise that it was actually just a week in which we found all the things that usually go on every week that we don't hear about.

Some crime happens on a college campus probably every day. Most likely hundreds of violent crimes a year. But the reason this is on HN is MIT, nothing more.

MIT has under 50 violent crimes per year.

They do have several hundred non-violent crimes per year.

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just wonder whether we will look back in 12 months time at the "week of hell" The mid-April week has always had a higher-than-normal rate of manic-type (e.g. spree killings) violence, and there are a lot of theories about it (spring inciting grandeur in unstable men) but no one knows why. Those are very rare, high-visibility events, though. Overall, that time is no more dangerous than any other. (There's only about…

I've certainly read before that it being tax day brings out the 'crazies', which makes at least some semblance of sense.

Tax day is a factor, but other anniversaries are likely to set off right-wing assailants. OKC and Waco both occurred in mid-April. Hitler was born and died in April (relevant only for certain brands of right-wing assailants).

Re: Shots fired at MIT - report of an active shooter near Bldg. 32 (Stata)

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Don't wish to make light of this at all, but I do wonder- how often does this happen? After all, "shots fired" is not an uncommon thing in many cities in the US. I just wonder whether we will look back in 12 months time at the "week of hell" and realise that it was actually just a week in which we found all the things that usually go on every week that we don't hear about.

When I was at MIT, I don't recall a single on-campus shooting.

I think Symmetry and I might recall the same event, in April 2003; a shooting near Random Hall that resulted in death (not a student).

http://tech.mit.edu/V123/N17/17shooting.17n.html

The worst part is it happened during pre-frosh weekend, when admitted high school students were invited to visit and experience MIT for a few days.

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