I'll buy a high-end Samsung Tizen device.
Given my record though, that'll be the kiss of death for the platform.
Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
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Re: Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
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The Kindle Fire is doing just fine with Amazon Appstore in lieu of Google Play.
The Kindle Fire is not a phone. Not having Google Maps/Gmail/Google Now/Google Chat/etc isn't that big of a deal on your reader or tablet, but it's a lot bigger deal on your phone.
Also current users of Samsung phones would be pretty upset if they bought a new one and couldn't download the apps they've already purchased via Google Play.
Re: Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
#83I am an early adopter when it makes sense. Smartphones have never made sense to me as a replacement for my desktop machine. I only recently switched to a smartphone because my trusty Nokia finally died. It made phone calls very well, by the way, and worked OK for texting and keeping a calendar, which are the three things that I mostly use the "smartphone" for. So, I recognize that I'm not like most here, but maybe th…
Along the same lines, Google wants to update shit I don't use and never will use (Gmail, Youtube, I don't know what all -9 apps recently)
Starting with ICS, you can uninstall the updates for those apps, and then disable them in the Settings -> Applications menu.
That said, Android works a lot better overall if you use Gmail at least.
As soon as someone figures out how to make it reliably easy to unlock phones and put another OS works with your phone company's system, the handset becomes a commodity
Oh how I wish this was possible. Unfortunately, at the hardware level, there is soooooo much support needed for each processor chip. Even among chips that share the same processor core (such as a ARM Cortex A9), all the peripherals and especially the power maagement is different. This prevents the building of a common hardware code base like we have in the PC world.
Re: Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
I doubt Tizen will take off . Samsung's software prowess is nowhere near to companies making and capable of making world class/sophisticated OS(or mobile OS). There is a lot of things that goes against Samsung which is in the company's DNA (culturally embedded it) and those are the things that hinder innovation and cutting edge research(esp. from s/w research perspective). (Probably the same things actually help them…
One correction: The last nexus(nexus 4) was from LG. The Galaxy Nexus & Nexus S were from Samsung.
Yes, that is why I said last two. I knew that. I own Nexus #3 and have worked on both #2 and #3 (and of course #4 is LG's and maybe #5 too) :-)
Thanks for reminding though. Maybe I should have explicitly excluded the current from from last two.
Re: Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
#85I expect Cyanogenmod and it's variants especially Paranoid Android to gain traction with HTC and Sony phones. Tizen is the WebOS of 2013, nobody wants a Tizen.
Re: Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
#86I expect Cyanogenmod and it's variants especially Paranoid Android to gain traction with HTC and Sony phones. Tizen is the WebOS of 2013, nobody wants a Tizen.
Samsung seems to be actually making hardware for Tizen, though, unlike HP.
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Great points. I think that helps me fill in a few gaps in what Samsung might be thinking here. Google has threatened that Samsung lose support if they fork Android. They might or might not actually do it - Samsung is a major Android player. The threat is still enough that Samsung have chosen not to try forking Android. However, Samsung still wants more control. The solution is to use Tizen with Android compatibility…
>> The threat is still enough that Samsung have chosen not to try forking Android. I can't think of anything great or innovative Samsung can after forking Android. It will let it die a sad and quick death by turning into an extended TouchWiz all over. I think Samsung knows that it's better to let Google do the dirty job. As per Tizen, not sure about its potential. I think other OEMs, if tried together would a lot bet…
I wonder how much support Intel is going to be investing into Tizen. On paper, a Samsung/Intel collaboration sounds considerable, but based on other comments it seems like there hasn't been much cooperation so far.
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"Microsoft is associated with corporation and money and monopoly." This is a good point, but I think it'd be closer to the mark to say that Microsoft is associated with work . People are often forced to use Microsoft products when they are at work. They frequently have little say in how these products are selected or configured. They're told that The Company has made those decisions for them, so they should just shut…
Spot on. For most people, Microsoft products are what your boss tells you to use. Psychologically, there is just no appeal in buying them outside of work. Microsoft was smart not to call XBOX "Windows Console" or such, but probably silly to call their mobile OS "Windows Phone".
I wonder if they had called it "XPhoneOS" and targeted some type of gaming integration/compatibility with XBOX/XBLA if they would have had better luck.
Re: Samsung's future is Tizen, not Android
#89The day Google gets HP to launch a nexus phone, all other manufacturers will have no change in Android high end market. Since the nexus one ALL nexus devices are buggy and crippled.
*chance