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Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by diminish »

Aardwolf wrote: post #77
mikek wrote: post #75

The #1 thing the Firefox DevTools group should be doing is integrating Firebug into Firefox. Right now they have the same team maintaining two codebases. That seems like a significant waste of time.

I kind of disagree, I would rather see Firefox DevTools not be Firebug. Firebug is not that great (compared to Chrome's debug tools) due to its UI. It looks like Firefox DevTools is at least going for a much better UI, so being constrained by Firebug would be a loss.

I still prefer Firebug, instead of Chrome dev tools. What are the reasons which make you think, it is not great?

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by paulrouget »

purephase wrote: post #47

While the number 1 suggestion sounds great on paper, isn't anyone else concerned about the security implications? The ability for the browser to modify files directly on my workstation outside of caching folders sounds like a recipe for disaster.

1) the protocol doesn't modify any file. The python script just opens an anonymous buffer.

2) to enable this feature, you first need to go to a "start connection" screen (not showed in the video)

3) you need to click on a dialog to accept any incoming connection

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by quaunaut »

ricardobeat wrote: post #67
quaunaut wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've personally internalized the downdown for going to things I've gone to before. However, I do brand new searches constantly . Often 20+ a day, that often look similar to older searches, but aren't quite. Now, whether I've developed that behavior because of Chrome, or because it works well for me, is a question for itself. Also, since I'm here- anyone get frequent fuckups lately in the Chrome omnibar, not searching…

All the time. I'm not sure how to not activate auto-completion sometimes.

But this isn't auto-completion, this is just plain ignoring what I typed.

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by gbadman »

gbadman wrote: post #76
paulrouget wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the first paragraph exactly about that?

Hi Paul, What I understood from your article is that you're mostly exploring 1) the possibility of opening up the dev tools to locally-installed applications like SublimeText2; and 2) the integration of jsFiddle-like apps within DevTools. Please correct me if I misunderstood. What I'm asking about is creating an in-browser API for a website to interact with the dev tools. Obviously, this would require a very thorough…

Paul, very cool indeed.

Stretch goal: How about having an in-browser API that could create such a websocket?

That would open some interesting possibilities in terms of remote debugging by piping socket traffic over another socket/WebRTC datachannel as well as allowing websites to interact with the debugger.

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by caipre »

IgorPartola wrote: post #34

One small thing that I haven't seen yet (in FF or Chrome) is a feature where I could get the IP address that was used to retrieve a given resource in the network tab. This would be hugely helpful when dealing with sites that are backed by more than one server. Also, ability to reset DNS cache (BTW, DNS cache seems to be shared between private and regular browsing modes). The ability to lock onto a specific IP for a g…

In Firebug this is shown in the 'Remote IP' column under the 'Net' tab. I don't use FF or Chrome dev tools often enough to know if/where they have it.

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by [deleted] »

sergiotapia wrote: post #10
quaunaut wrote: post #9

At the moment, I really like Chrome because I just find the behavior of the Omnibar superior to Firefox's Awesomebar. But hot damn, you're making me question loyalties on my dev machine.

Haha, I just switched from Chrome to Firefox because I hate how Chrome prioritizes Google Search over my previous history. It's idiotic. Here, let me show you a clear example. http://i.imgur.com/uNsh7Yv.png Firefox clearly has the superior bar.

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Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by mrinterweb »

quaunaut wrote: post #9

At the moment, I really like Chrome because I just find the behavior of the Omnibar superior to Firefox's Awesomebar. But hot damn, you're making me question loyalties on my dev machine.

I preferred Chrome's Omnibar to Firefox's AwesomeBar as well, but then I found this FF add-on https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/omnibar/. One advantage I have always preferred with FireFox is that it's add-ons can have tighter integration with the browser than Chrome's extensions. In example, one such add-on that Chrome can't do is FireFox's Last-Tab add-on. It lets you switch between tabs in the order they were used. After getting used to that work flow, I have a hard time using any browser other than FF. To me, Firefox seems more extensible than Chrome.

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by didyousaymeow »

sergiotapia wrote: post #10
quaunaut wrote: post #9

At the moment, I really like Chrome because I just find the behavior of the Omnibar superior to Firefox's Awesomebar. But hot damn, you're making me question loyalties on my dev machine.

Haha, I just switched from Chrome to Firefox because I hate how Chrome prioritizes Google Search over my previous history. It's idiotic. Here, let me show you a clear example. http://i.imgur.com/uNsh7Yv.png Firefox clearly has the superior bar.

Aurelio's used to have amazing pizza before the original owners sold it and it became a franchise. Don't waste your money, there's plenty of better options.

Also, I agree with you regarding Chrome's Google search priorities.

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by tambourine_man »

sergiotapia wrote: post #10
quaunaut wrote: post #9

At the moment, I really like Chrome because I just find the behavior of the Omnibar superior to Firefox's Awesomebar. But hot damn, you're making me question loyalties on my dev machine.

Haha, I just switched from Chrome to Firefox because I hate how Chrome prioritizes Google Search over my previous history. It's idiotic. Here, let me show you a clear example. http://i.imgur.com/uNsh7Yv.png Firefox clearly has the superior bar.

I like Safari's solution best.

Hit space and you get recent searches.

Start typing and you get suggestions.

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by IgorPartola »

caipre wrote: post #85
IgorPartola wrote: post #34

One small thing that I haven't seen yet (in FF or Chrome) is a feature where I could get the IP address that was used to retrieve a given resource in the network tab. This would be hugely helpful when dealing with sites that are backed by more than one server. Also, ability to reset DNS cache (BTW, DNS cache seems to be shared between private and regular browsing modes). The ability to lock onto a specific IP for a g…

In Firebug this is shown in the 'Remote IP' column under the 'Net' tab. I don't use FF or Chrome dev tools often enough to know if/where they have it.

Ah, you are right. Such a useful feature!
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