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Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)

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I was about to post this exact same thing. It actually would be quite easy to do.

Don't forget the hosting costs of like, uh, $15 for three months. $985 profit in 1 hour!

Don't forget taxes either.

Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)

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I heard a story from a friend who works in the oil industry. The Indian dev team had updated the software that controlled the oil flow from a field, but they'd introduced a bug that was losing $5000 (or barrels, memory fails me) a day somehow. They couldn't roll back to the previous version because they weren't using version control for the software. I've seen some balls ups from UK teams too fwiw, but nothing that a…

You're pointing to a highly specific example about a particular instance, about a tiny sample from an entire lot, about something that shouldn't have been outsourced in the first place and then trying to conclude in general that "therefore X group of developers sucks". I would rather label this argument with 'wtf' instead of your (pointless) example.

I'm not saying "they suck" at all. Just providing a piece of anecdata. So most of us on here work on the web and it would be standard for us to work with source control.

Software controlling an oil field is a step above the bog standard CRUD app that powers most of the web. I'm very surprised that such a mess up could happen, and so was my friend who was in charge of the project.

Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)

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I heard a story from a friend who works in the oil industry. The Indian dev team had updated the software that controlled the oil flow from a field, but they'd introduced a bug that was losing $5000 (or barrels, memory fails me) a day somehow. They couldn't roll back to the previous version because they weren't using version control for the software. I've seen some balls ups from UK teams too fwiw, but nothing that a…

I'm as quick as anyone to bash low price outsourcers, but there's nothing about that situation specific to being Indians. I've worked on many projects here in the states with active codebases that had no source control, and all of their "talent" was home grown.

But what kind of software? Controlling an oil field is a little more critical than a CMS.

Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)

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I heard a story from a friend who works in the oil industry. The Indian dev team had updated the software that controlled the oil flow from a field, but they'd introduced a bug that was losing $5000 (or barrels, memory fails me) a day somehow. They couldn't roll back to the previous version because they weren't using version control for the software. I've seen some balls ups from UK teams too fwiw, but nothing that a…

What moron outsourced mission critical software like this? I'm not sure I'm buying this story.

It's fairly standard for big corps to outsource software development. They see software as a cost centre, and in some ways it is. Even at a loss of $5000 per day they may have still come out on top in the long run.

Edit: source, my brother has a senior position at one of the big four accountancy firms, they outsource a lot of dev work to India.

Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)

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Whats wrong with steroids? Dianabol is the breakfast of champions according to Arnold.

off-topic Dianabol is really not the way it goes today ;)

You still live in the 70s regarding your knowledge about these drugs. SARMs, siRNA and RNAi will be very popular in future - See stock valuations and research it's history.

I recommend informing about these, but advise everyone to avoid them. Peptid research is in the beginnings, don't make yourself a Guinea Pig.

Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARM), Small interfering RNA (siRNA) and RNA interference (RNAi) are way ahead of what you may know about this topic.

The reason I know about it, is because some idiots in the Gym always kept asking me about Steroids and I didn't know anything about it. Which was frustrating and led me to inform me bottom up about everything that's necessary to know. Including talks with regular Steroid consumers.

My Conclusion, taking these drugs is irresponsible and not worth it. Everything comes with it's side-effects. SARMs, siRNA and RNAi are making babysteps and there can be severe side-effects that you won't be able to lookup on a google search.

Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)

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A WEEK! Think about it, there are two of you working on two maybe three pages. So you're telling me that you need more than 100 hours (because of course, it's a start up, and we're on "salary" - so yeah, overtime) to build TWO PAGES! My opinion it should take one, maybe two days max. I don't think you guys have the drive to be working at a startup (<- heard this before)

I had to read this three times before I realised you were being sarcastic. My blood pressure does not thank you.

Think about what my blood pressure feels like every day :-/

Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)

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I'm as quick as anyone to bash low price outsourcers, but there's nothing about that situation specific to being Indians. I've worked on many projects here in the states with active codebases that had no source control, and all of their "talent" was home grown.

But what kind of software? Controlling an oil field is a little more critical than a CMS.

You're diverting. Bad software teams are bad. The fact that they were Indians is irrelevant - using home grown talent doesn't guarantee a level of quality.

Re: I want build Email service Website Like Gmail / Hotmail / Yahoo (for $500-$1000)

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But what kind of software? Controlling an oil field is a little more critical than a CMS.

You're diverting. Bad software teams are bad. The fact that they were Indians is irrelevant - using home grown talent doesn't guarantee a level of quality.

I'd suggest that using a home grown team would reduce the risk of ending up with a bad team.
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