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Google: Do what you want with Reader, but don't kill CalDAV

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Re: Google: Do what you want with Reader, but don't kill CalDAV

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Post by kalleboo »

Osiris wrote: post #75
cooldeal wrote: post #10

Is there any stated reason for deprecating CalDAV support? I hope the new Calendar API is open enough for platforms like Blackberry, Ubuntu Mobile, Jolla and Firefox OS etc to tap into. It's increasingly looking like Google is making it hard for other platforms except it's own Android and iOS(can't ignore iOS because of the number of users) to interoperate with its services like Youtube, Gmail, Calendar etc.

For my day job I work on a Calendar application. We provide a CalDav service for customers to access their Calendar data. While it can get tricky to support all the variations, it's a solid standard that makes integration really easy. One problem we have is that Android doesn't natively support CalDav, so we can't integrate with the built-in Android calendar like we can with iOS's calendar. For those that work with c…

Exchange ActiveSync

Edit: I forgot they're turning off ActiveSync for free users later this year

Re: Google: Do what you want with Reader, but don't kill CalDAV

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Post by MrScruff »

cooldeal wrote: post #10

Is there any stated reason for deprecating CalDAV support? I hope the new Calendar API is open enough for platforms like Blackberry, Ubuntu Mobile, Jolla and Firefox OS etc to tap into. It's increasingly looking like Google is making it hard for other platforms except it's own Android and iOS(can't ignore iOS because of the number of users) to interoperate with its services like Youtube, Gmail, Calendar etc.

CalDAV was the approved method for syncing Google calendars on iOS since they ended activesync support on new devices a month ago.

I'm not sure what the plan is now. Hopefully Apple will be in the approved third party list for extended CalDAV support.

Re: Google: Do what you want with Reader, but don't kill CalDAV

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Post by kalleboo »

rythie wrote: post #14

Surely this breaks calendar syncing with iOS http://support.google.com/calendar/bin/answer.py?hl=en&a... please tell me I'm very wrong about this?

My iPhone syncs to Google Calendar through Exchange/ActiveSync, I imagine that will still be an option.

Edit: I forgot they're turning off ActiveSync for free users later this year

Re: Google: Do what you want with Reader, but don't kill CalDAV

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Post by pstatho »

nlawalker wrote: post #2

The MSFT change in position on supporting CalDAV (and the linked Win8 help page) is news to me. My Windows Phone 8 is still syncing with Gmail calendar. Does anyone know what's really going on here?

Google is extending EAS for another 6 months and msft announced they will support CalDAV and CardDAV, though this may now change: http://blogs.windows.com/windows_phone/b/windowsphone/archiv...

Re: Google: Do what you want with Reader, but don't kill CalDAV

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Post by MrScruff »

philwebster wrote: post #24
cobbal wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pure speculation, but I would assume Apple will be a "whitelisted developer".

Based on Google's previous app releases (YouTube, Gmail, Maps, ...) I wouldn't be surprised to see a native Google Calendar app instead.

If that's the case, then I'm leaving Google calendar. Apple doesn't get to pick which calendar app I use, let alone Google.

Re: Google: Do what you want with Reader, but don't kill CalDAV

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Post by orionblastar »

Why can't we just roll our own CalDAV server via open source projects instead of getting upset that Google is dropping it?

Google is dropping Reader, but we can use opens source projects to find another RSS reader. Heck I use Thunderbird for my RSS reading.

Re: Google: Do what you want with Reader, but don't kill CalDAV

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Post by hiddentaco »

eknkc wrote: post #46
3825 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exchange server is $10 per month at Rackspace [1] I've heard good things about Microsoft Office 365 as well. Then, there's always Google Apps for Business... [1] https://www.rackspace.com/apps/email_hosting/exchange_hostin...

Been using Office 365 for a year now. Never had any problems. I'd suggest it over GApps for business if you are looking for a paid service.

Having transferred companies to both O365 and GApps from Exachange I really have to say that O365 is a horrible product. It is slow and nearly everything about the back-end seems like it was put together in haste.

Re: Google: Do what you want with Reader, but don't kill CalDAV

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Post by [deleted] »

orangethirty wrote: post #30
guelo wrote: post #15

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They're going down the Facebook route, they want to lock you into their AOL-style walled garden. I was surprised the other day when I went to share a video from Google+ to Facebook, turns out I couldn't, it wasn't a youtube video as I had expected.

Just like PG said in one of his essays, Google is now the new Microsoft. It used to be about giving hackers tools to build on top of their services. Now, its all about turning the search engine into a social network. And before the Google army comes in, let me say one thing. I used to love Google. Used all of their services. Built stuff with their services. Each computer I touched got Chrome installed. I was a fan bo…

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Re: Google: Do what you want with Reader, but don't kill CalDAV

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Post by meej »

urza wrote: post #80
meej wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Between Google retiring stuff and Twitter's ongoing war against client developers, I'm seriously considering just packing up and self-hosting everything I care about on my VPS.

You might be interested in FreedomBox http://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/LeavingTheCloud

Nice! I am a diehard Slackware user, but this gives me ideas. Thank you!

Re: Google: Do what you want with Reader, but don't kill CalDAV

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Post by vacri »

chapel wrote: post #73
onemorepassword wrote: post #66

I'm pretty much done with Google as supplier of business apps. I have to migrate our company's Google Apps account anyway because of a (domain)name change (which is still hell with Google Apps anyway, you basically have to buy and setup a totally new account an migrate everything by hand or with 3rd party tools), so I might as well look for another supplier. As much as I dislike everything Microsoft, 365 currently lo…

You can add alternate domains to Google Apps accounts which can work just as the main domain. So you don't have to migrate anything, it is the same account just acknowledges and accepts the alternate domain.

You can alias the main domain, or you can add a new separate domain with its own settings, both of which we use on the one account.
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