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Has anyone ever defined E-prime in E-prime? The wikipedia page doesn't offer one but I'd imagine it would have to be a series of prolog-like assertions about E-prime. You obviously can't just say "E-prime is ..."
E-prime begins with English and then removes the being verbs. E-prime removes all conjugations of "to be" from English. <-- Not sure if quoting "to be" as a noun counts. :)
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Re: You aren't getting any better
#82After 34 years, my recipe for the best way to get better: Find customers. Satisfy them. Repeat. They will pull you kicking and screaming into your excellent future much faster than you can ever do it yourself.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
E-prime begins with English and then removes the being verbs. E-prime removes all conjugations of "to be" from English. <-- Not sure if quoting "to be" as a noun counts. :)
Shuzan held out his short staff and said, "If you call this a short staff, you oppose its reality. If you do not call it a short staff, you ignore the fact. Now what do you wish to call this?"
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
E-prime begins with English and then removes the being verbs. E-prime removes all conjugations of "to be" from English. <-- Not sure if quoting "to be" as a noun counts. :)
Shuzan held out his short staff and said, "If you call this a short staff, you oppose its reality. If you do not call it a short staff, you ignore the fact. Now what do you wish to call this?"
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I'm curious, would you elaborate on your reasons to avoid "to be" verbs?
There is no science I can point to but I feel using language that way makes it as if the skill has become part of your identity. Makes it hard to detach. So that I insult Ruby or Apple and now I am insulting you. Google is dying means a big part of your self is becoming obsolete. I am a "pythonista/rubyist/haskeller" encourages tribal thinking. Them vs Us. I find this also explains much about flamewars. I don't like.…
It's also the reason you shouldn't talk about religion or politics at work or with the in-laws. For exactly the reason you mentioned: attacking Ruby will feel to the Rubyist like a personal attack.
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> You are probably a little behind the times. Like 15 years. The term "hacker" has stopped meaning exclusively these kind of guys for agres... No. What we're dealing here actually is the effect of the urge of wannabe-hacker kids using inflected forms of "hacking" in unheard before ways next to achievements often barely worth mentioning, especially under the "hack" hat. I'm hacking new code - I'm programming new code.…
> I simply cannot agree to these alleged redefinitions. How about the most blatant redefinition -- from "a guy hacking trees with an axe"? > HN as a community is the last place I would like to see wholeheartedly accepting casual things as hacking. Well, Paul Graham might have been a great hacker (and Robert Morris!), but HN was built more around an entrepreneurial community (YC et al). As such, a lot of people here d…
I'm not saying that words cannot get new meaning in some new emerging contexts. Languages evolve, that goes without saying. But when people start to deteriorate their meaning within the same context, mostly to be able to use these terms themselves, thus feeling a bit better or cooler (because these terms used to describe exceptional people), then something wrong is happening.
> As such, a lot of people here don't do deep hacking stuff. They do simple web services...
And it's fine, really. I'm not bashing HN community for submitting stories not worth of "hacking" (according to "old meaning", as you named it) emblem (it's really nice when such stories appear, though), because on-topic is "anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity". I'm criticizing overuse of all hack* nouns, adjectives, adverbs, verbs and what not. I believe that most people here can tell the difference between slick and shiny CSS date picker and system emulation done using JS for instance (to stay in the browser realm). Not everyone is like Bellard, but does it mean we need to redefine "hacker" to allow its wider use and prevent covering this term in dust as the time goes? Hell no.
> So, seeing that HN has tons of introductory or trivial Node, Mongo and similar articles, why should you expect to see the "old meaning" of hacker here?
Because it's part of computer-related legacy.
Doing fun things (everyone perceive "fun" differently) doesn't need to be hard and is quite healthy. Sharing and spreading the fun is definitely ok too. But let's not pretend that doing anything fun in CS field is immediately hacking, because it's not. HN is thankfully full of people aware of it, so I'm not afraid about HN future, yet.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Shuzan held out his short staff and said, "If you call this a short staff, you oppose its reality. If you do not call it a short staff, you ignore the fact. Now what do you wish to call this?"
How does calling it a name oppose its reality? It still has a reality even if you concurrently give it a name.
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> You are probably a little behind the times. Like 15 years. The term "hacker" has stopped meaning exclusively these kind of guys for agres... No. What we're dealing here actually is the effect of the urge of wannabe-hacker kids using inflected forms of "hacking" in unheard before ways next to achievements often barely worth mentioning, especially under the "hack" hat. I'm hacking new code - I'm programming new code.…
I don't think it's an insult to anyone that the meaning of the word has changed. People call themselves hackers in admiration of the kind of hacking you point to. Also, as another commenter pointed out, programmers call themselves hackers to speak to say "I would be programming even if it didn't pay the bills." If anything I'd say your reverence for the term itself is dangerously close to hero worship, if not outrigh…
I see that only people clung to their misuse of hacker and related terms are advocating that the meaning has changed. Well, for mass-media hackers are computer criminal, should we acknowledge it and stop using the term in an original computer-related meaning?
Hackers in fact rarely refers to themselves by this term. They are also quite modest and open to any critique, contrary to many boastful youngsters calling themselves "hackers".
> People call themselves hackers in admiration of the kind of hacking you point to.
Hackers admiration is fine, but the logic is flawed. Admiration alone doesn't change you into the one you admire, so it's quite awkward calling oneself someone she or he is not yet, don't you think?
> Also, as another commenter pointed out, programmers call themselves hackers to speak to say "I would be programming even if it didn't pay the bills."
"I would be hacking even if it didn't pay the bills." -> thinking or saying that doesn't make anyone a "hacker", even more if we're talking about "programming".
Hacker - programmer that is not afraid of starving. Amusing definition.
> If anything I'd say your reverence for the term itself is dangerously close to hero worship, if not outright hero worship.
Worship? I call it accuracy.
> Identifying with the culture of the hackers you're referring to helps us keep our sights on being our best selves and serves as a reminder what kind of work is top notch.
Sure, I don't see anything wrong in identifying with (meant as aiming to become part of) the culture of the hackers, but calling myself a hacker just because of my aspirations would be plainly wrong, so I cannot commend such practices.
Re: You aren't getting any better
#89I'm sorry but I am too getting better. It's just that getting better is a draining, exhausting, humbling, confusing, difficult, pain in the ass process where your effectiveness goes to 0 for a while as you do something new. I think the reality is that people avoid getting better because the process to truly make such strides is a horrible experience. For instance; after 12 years of vim I'm trying emacs ... intensivel…
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#90After 34 years, my recipe for the best way to get better: Find customers. Satisfy them. Repeat. They will pull you kicking and screaming into your excellent future much faster than you can ever do it yourself.
A typical corporate scenario can be that you are satisfying some very real needs, but you are reporting to other/different people than those -- people who may have or come to have very different goals.
This is a recipe for getting screwed.