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Re: Protect Kids, Get F*cked

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I think I need to clarify what IMSafer did. A lot of arm chair QBs here talking about how's it's evil or that abuse of children in a sexual way just doesn't happen...that could not be further from the truth. No offense (well we know where this is going), but anyone saying this has no f*$%ing idea what they are talking about. What we found in those years with IMSafer and later with the company that purchased our asset…

To pile on a little bit to what Erik shared here. There were several use cases that we could not have imagined when we set out on our path. First, there was a case where a high school girl was equipment manager of her school football team. She was gang raped by some of the players. She was talking about that in chat with her friend, talking about committing suicide, and talking about how she couldn't tell her parents…

Children and young people react with "this software violates my rights!" As a child, under the age of 18, in the US, has no rights. A parent is supposed to parent. They have no right to privacy.

It's absolutely false that children in the US have no rights or that parents can legally violate any of their rights arbitrarily. It's closer to the truth that children don't have a legal right to privacy from their parents in their parents' home using their parents' computer and internet connection.

This attitude is problematic though. Instead of encouraging a more open dialog between parents and their kids, parents using spyware creates an adversarial relationship. Under those circumstances, the kids will find ways around it, which you describe elsewhere as "unfortunate". I have no doubt there were situations where your software resulted in very good outcomes, but I'm inclined to suspect that in most cases where parents installed it, there was something broken in the parent/child relationship. Unfortunately "No mutual trust with your teenager? Our robot babysitter will let you know if she's talking about suicide online." probably isn't the world's best advertising slogan.

Re: Protect Kids, Get F*cked

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While you made a lot of mistakes here, it's also pretty frustrating that there's a good deal of VCs who are basically only looking for the next Twitter. Why would anyone think viral growth would be realistic for this product? How does one acquire that much capital while knowing so little about business?

A good deal? From what I've heard, every single VC in Silicon Valley shares this unhealthy obsession over "the next Twitter" (Just read pg's definition of "startup"). And as long as Twitter, Google and Facebook keep paying 8 figure (or 10 figure) sums to acquire "startups" without a business model, VCs don't need to know anything about real business.

Well, I was trying to be nice so the ones that read the forum can convince themselves they are in the good group.

Re: Protect Kids, Get F*cked

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The title is misleading, immature and in poor taste. If HN moderators had a clue, they would edit it.

If you had the power to edit it yourself,what would you change it to? And why?

"Misadventures in Kiddie World"

Anything is better than what's up there now.

Re: Protect Kids, Get F*cked

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We received email after email from parents thanking us for saving their children’s lives, literally. Yes, please tell me more about all these children whose lives your service saved. Just like To Catch A Predator's ridiculous premise (that digusting, fat 50 year-old men who live in their parents' basement are hooking up with hot teenagers), yours reeks of trumping up a problem that only exists on the extreme fringe.…

"I want to know because anyone who would vote money on an anecdotal experience like this is an idiot"

Can't tell if serious? This happens all over the valley all the time. You show investors something they would use many of them would invest.

I have heard "oh, that's cool I would use that," many times for a lot of bad ideas. VCs have egos that cloud their judgement all the time.

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