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Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

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Post by fkeel1 »

Somewhat off topic, but this has been bothering me for a while now:

about the role of aaron swartz in all this... initially I read he was facing "up to 35 years" in prison. After his death people started speaking of "up to 50 years". In relation to the USSC hack I have started seeing 50+ years pop up.

I feel like these exaggerations do not do anyone any good. The actual facts are horrible enough - bloating them up like that does not support his cause, rather, imo might undermine it, as it reduces the credibility of anyone arguing his case.

Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

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Post by sp332 »

brudgers wrote: post #80
tokenadult wrote: post #70

[Shakes his head in disgust.] Hackers, it's time for me to hack the discussion. You and your first world problems have NO IDEA how to fight for freedom. This is the wimpy way to protest whatever it is you are protesting. Unlike most people who post here, I have actually lived under a dictatorial regime that ruled a territory that later had a peaceful transition to democracy and legally protected civil rights. Anonymo…

"Free" as in information. Activists scratching their own itches aren't misguided. They are shipping. Neither is anonymity cowardice. The DOJ won't treat those they catch as pranksters or respect their convictions of conscience. And other interests may not care how problems are solved. just that they are. Face and big money are at stake. And all sides are serious adults

"Fail fast" is not really helpful when you have decades of experience to bring to the table. Humanity already has the knowledge we need to operate an effective popular action. No A/B testing necessary.

Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

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Post by [deleted] »

sp332 wrote: post #82
brudgers wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Free" as in information. Activists scratching their own itches aren't misguided. They are shipping. Neither is anonymity cowardice. The DOJ won't treat those they catch as pranksters or respect their convictions of conscience. And other interests may not care how problems are solved. just that they are. Face and big money are at stake. And all sides are serious adults

"Fail fast" is not really helpful when you have decades of experience to bring to the table. Humanity already has the knowledge we need to operate an effective popular action. No A/B testing necessary.

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Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

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Post by tobylane »

Claudus wrote: post #56
Claudus wrote: post #49

The site contains links to 9 encrypted files, one for each of the current Supreme Court Justices. The files are intended to be concatenated into a single file named: Warhead-US-DOJ-LEA-2013.aes256 (US-DOJ-LEA = United States - Department of Justice - Law Enforcement Agency) aes256 is apparently the encryption scheme used to encrypt the files. File names (and sizes): 1115 MB total Scalia.Warhead1 (150 MB) Kennedy.Warh…

https://twitter.com/aestetix/status/295121141805223937 Based on http://66.153.19.162/clarity1.txt through clarity3.txt, it looks like NIH docs.

That second link is down, what was it?

Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

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Post by z0ot »

brendyn wrote: post #79
tokenadult wrote: post #70

[Shakes his head in disgust.] Hackers, it's time for me to hack the discussion. You and your first world problems have NO IDEA how to fight for freedom. This is the wimpy way to protest whatever it is you are protesting. Unlike most people who post here, I have actually lived under a dictatorial regime that ruled a territory that later had a peaceful transition to democracy and legally protected civil rights. Anonymo…

Thanks for the aeinstein.org link. One thing: "no one in Anonymous seems courageous enough to go prison" - What use is it to go to prison? Maybe you will get some article produced about you generation some attention, but it really doesn't seem helpful. Courageous, I agree, but is it rational? Recently I read about a small protest in mainland China about an instance of media censorship. A bunch of people singed there…

"Sometimes a law is just on its face and unjust in its application. For instance, I have been arrested on a charge of parading without a permit. Now, there is nothing wrong in having an ordinance which requires a permit for a parade. But such an ordinance becomes unjust when it is used to maintain segregation and to deny citizens the First-Amendment privilege of peaceful assembly and protest.

I hope you are able to see the distinction I am trying to point out. In no sense do I advocate evading or defying the law, as would the rabid segregationist. That would lead to anarchy. One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the penalty. I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law."

http://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.h...

Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

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Post by cskau »

Claudus wrote: post #49

The site contains links to 9 encrypted files, one for each of the current Supreme Court Justices. The files are intended to be concatenated into a single file named: Warhead-US-DOJ-LEA-2013.aes256 (US-DOJ-LEA = United States - Department of Justice - Law Enforcement Agency) aes256 is apparently the encryption scheme used to encrypt the files. File names (and sizes): 1115 MB total Scalia.Warhead1 (150 MB) Kennedy.Warh…

Does anyone know of any live mirrors of these files? Would be interesting to run some tests of them.

I wonder at the legal implications of possessing them though?

Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

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Post by knowtheory »

brendyn wrote: post #79
tokenadult wrote: post #70

[Shakes his head in disgust.] Hackers, it's time for me to hack the discussion. You and your first world problems have NO IDEA how to fight for freedom. This is the wimpy way to protest whatever it is you are protesting. Unlike most people who post here, I have actually lived under a dictatorial regime that ruled a territory that later had a peaceful transition to democracy and legally protected civil rights. Anonymo…

Thanks for the aeinstein.org link. One thing: "no one in Anonymous seems courageous enough to go prison" - What use is it to go to prison? Maybe you will get some article produced about you generation some attention, but it really doesn't seem helpful. Courageous, I agree, but is it rational? Recently I read about a small protest in mainland China about an instance of media censorship. A bunch of people singed there…

You are comparing apples and oranges.

This was not a protest in rural China where corrupt local communist party officials are going to come and disappear you.

This was an attack on a US Federal Government website. Whoever defaced the site might get prosecuted for their endeavor, but the only purpose for anonymity here is for the instigators to avoid official reprisal and prosecution (.e.g to get away with it).

Nobody in the US is going to persecute you because you think academic articles should be free (they'll largely just ignore you).

Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

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Post by znowi »

knowaveragejoe wrote: post #7
olefoo wrote: post #6

Dudes. This is not at all helpful. Website defacements just create more of an excuse for a crackdown. If you're going to risk your life and freedom hacking things; make it worth your goddam time. Hack the prison industrial complex and get the evidence that shows that crimes are being created so that prisoners can be kept at a profit. Expose the email trails of corrupt judges who put away kids for kickbacks. Dox the m…

This. I think hacktivism and subsequent whistle-blowing can do good, but this is pissing in the wind.

Yes, sadly, most cases of whistle-blowing in the government sector end up in retaliation and prosecution of whistle-blowers themselves and little to no change in the relevant agencies.

Wikileaks had a great potential. It's like a startup set out to disrupt the market of public/government relations. But it was washed away into near-irrelevance. And not only because the forces they stood up against are immensely powerful, but also because most people, really, don't care.

Nonetheless, I'm glad whistle-blowers exist and have guts to speak up. The case of Wikileaks and others did reveal how deeply corrupt are those in power and how grand their appetites are.

Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

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Post by mseebach »

hermannj314 wrote: post #57
olefoo wrote: post #6

Dudes. This is not at all helpful. Website defacements just create more of an excuse for a crackdown. If you're going to risk your life and freedom hacking things; make it worth your goddam time. Hack the prison industrial complex and get the evidence that shows that crimes are being created so that prisoners can be kept at a profit. Expose the email trails of corrupt judges who put away kids for kickbacks. Dox the m…

Exposing emails, hacking the FBI? This is not at all helpful. Murdering politicians, assassinating police officers and judges, freeing the wrongly imprisoned by force. A willingness to die fighting. Any or all of those would change things, possibly for the better. But this, this is a waste of your time and ours.

So, here's a free piece of advice: Put away the Guy Fawkes mask, turn down the RATM and read a book. You live in a real democracy. Not a perfect one, those don't exist, a real one. That makes you more free than most people alive today and all the dead ones. All of them. Your frustration shouldn't primarily sourced in the brokenness of the system, but in how the vast majority of your co-citizens disagree with you that it's broken - or, at least, fundamentally disagrees with what the solution is.

Your mission as a citizen in a democracy is to convince your fellow citizens that this is wrong and that it should be fixed. The second you pick up a weapon, you lose. Game over.

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