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IRC is dead, long live IRC

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Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

#81
post #52

I stopped using IRC several years ago. There are so many features in a multi-person chat that's lagging behind. Jabbr ( http://www.jabbr.net ) is a good replacement for IRC, with features such as offline history, and embedded content (for code snippets, etc.)

URL doesn't work. Also I consider IRC's decentralized nature to be superior, just as it's simple protocol and established communities.

Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

#82
I am 18 now and have been irc daily for the last two years (mostly open-source dev) i knew about it for a long time but back then was a windows user so couldnt find a good client+ didnt understand the commands. Now i have completely shifted to Linux and cant imagine open source development without irc.

Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

#83
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try reading beyond the title?

or even reading the title, as typically "___ is dead, long live ___" doesnt mean the ___ is dead

Well, it _does_. The second part is implied to refer to a different incarnation of it. Eg the original use "Le Roi est mort, vive le Roi!" ("The king is dead, long live the king") refers to the previous king dying and a new one ascending the throne.

As such, I believe the second part of the title refers to an adapting ("new") form of IRC. As mentioned in the article, projects to add video chat support and the likes. The old IRC is dead (well, dying at least by the looks of it), a new adapted version is the future. [According to the article]

Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

#84
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

or even reading the title, as typically "___ is dead, long live ___" doesnt mean the ___ is dead

Well, it _does_. The second part is implied to refer to a different incarnation of it. Eg the original use "Le Roi est mort, vive le Roi!" ("The king is dead, long live the king") refers to the previous king dying and a new one ascending the throne. As such, I believe the second part of the title refers to an adapting ("new") form of IRC. As mentioned in the article, projects to add video chat support and the likes.…

Ah, thank you! I came into the comments to ask what "X is dead, long live the X" means, but you've saved me some time :)

Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

#85

I work at google campus in london, an office for startups. Many weeks ago, somebody suggested on our yammer (business social network) that we should set up an irc channel for the people who work here. The general response was along the lines of 'that still exists?', 'hey, I heard windows 3.0 is being released', etc. Shame, because I find irc to still be the best chat I've ever used. Their response was also weird, sin…

Today's new tech startups are run by people who missed the time window when IRC was popular. They grew up with web based chats and instant messengers.

Unless I'm old at 25: bullshit.

The people who go "into tech" during college because they saw Mark Zuckerberg making dumptrucks full of money probably don't know what IRC is, but the people who had to get into IRC chats to figure out how to make linux work on our hardware (like me, and most of my peers) absolutely grew up with IRC.

I grew up having friends that I met solely on IRC, and having it be a staple of the way that I communicated with certain groups of people; it's the same story with most of the people I hang out with.

Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

#86
I started an mIRC script site back in 1997. Young developers would email their scripts to me and I would write a very critical review of them. I did this for many months and the site quickly became one of the top IRC sites online. This momentum has carried the site all the way to 2013. While mIRC script traffic has steadily declined over the years there is still a strong community. We still have members posting mIRC snippets to this day. While I've been working hard to transition the site to more modern development platforms the mIRC posts keep coming. In fact I get a little embarrassed by all the mIRC content on the site. One thing I've noticed is that IRC is and always has been popular among very young developers. Many mIRC scripters are in their teens and some grow up to be professional developers. I've been watching them for 16 years and some come back and reminisce about their old IRC scripting days. IRC has been a major part of my life and has in many ways formed my entire development career.

Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

#87
IRC is still the best chat system. Anyone can get up and running in seconds, there are tons of Web GUIs and its fast as hell.

There are tons of alternatives, but none with the simple ubiquity of IRC.

Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

#89
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Today's new tech startups are run by people who missed the time window when IRC was popular. They grew up with web based chats and instant messengers.

yep. for some context: One of the first times Zuckerberg and I (Mark Andreessen) got together, in 2005 or 2006, he stopped me in the middle of conversation and asked: “What did Netscape do?” http://www.wired.com/business/2012/04/ff_andreessen/all/1

Misunderstand the quote more?

He's asking what netscape the group, as in the people building the software did, not what the software did.

Re: IRC is dead, long live IRC

#90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it wasn't for one irc channel, I don't think I would have made it through the first 2 years of programming. Didn't bother them to much (i hope), but just to understand pointers and that at the start, with C, and other things, really helped. 12 years on and wouldn't wanna do anything else.

##C on freenode?

For sharpening your axe ##C is amazing, but beginners are regularly mocked and burned at the stake there.

> "How do I allocate a string?"

> "But what is a string?"

> "You know that thing with letters in it. Seriously how do I allocate a string?"

> "Sorry we don't know what a string is, you'll need to define it for us first"

> "OK it's a contiguous chunk of bytes in RAM"

> "Sorry C has no concept of bytes or RAM."

That kind of impractical nonsense.

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