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Re: Houthis 'take control' of key island in global shipping route

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Post by fofoz » Fri, Sep 11, 2026, 2:56 PM UTC

p-e-w wrote: post #60

watwut wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just dont think these guy are even capable to plan that much.

Then you probably believe that the US government only consists of the half dozen clowns you see on TV every day.

We have no doubt that the best people are in US government and that they have the best tools at their disposal. Around the world, we are simply trying to figure out, while munching on plenty of popcorn, how this incredible sequence of actions will play out; a sequence clearly crafted using highly complex strategic planning tools that employ the most advanced techniques from game theory, AI, and who knows what else.

Re: Houthis 'take control' of key island in global shipping route

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Post by epolanski » Fri, Sep 11, 2026, 2:56 PM UTC

littlecranky67 wrote: post #10

Will this bring oil prices down in Europe? Oil tankers could still go to the mediteranian via the suez canal. This will not help asia, but I can imagine if it is too dangerous the go through bab al-mandab strait it is more lucrative to sell the crude oil to europe at a discount?

Oil is sold globally.

It doesn't matter if in Texas wells are producing it at a penny for barrel, if the global prices are high that oil is going to be sold to Philippinos, Japanese, Italians or South Africans.

So, at the same time, it doesn't matter if some new routes open or close, it doesn't particularly favor one or the other buyer, it's still sold globally on a bid.

Re: Houthis 'take control' of key island in global shipping route

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Post by haunter » Fri, Sep 11, 2026, 2:56 PM UTC

littlecranky67 wrote: post #10

Will this bring oil prices down in Europe? Oil tankers could still go to the mediteranian via the suez canal. This will not help asia, but I can imagine if it is too dangerous the go through bab al-mandab strait it is more lucrative to sell the crude oil to europe at a discount?

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Re: Houthis 'take control' of key island in global shipping route

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Post by danans » Fri, Sep 11, 2026, 2:57 PM UTC

littlecranky67 wrote: post #10

Will this bring oil prices down in Europe? Oil tankers could still go to the mediteranian via the suez canal. This will not help asia, but I can imagine if it is too dangerous the go through bab al-mandab strait it is more lucrative to sell the crude oil to europe at a discount?

> if it is too dangerous the go through bab al-mandab strait it is more lucrative to sell the crude oil to europe at a discount?

I suspect they would sooner curtail production rather then sell at a discount due to route restrictions.

Re: Houthis 'take control' of key island in global shipping route

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Post by epolanski » Fri, Sep 11, 2026, 2:58 PM UTC

markvdb wrote: post #55

littlecranky67 wrote: post #10

Will this bring oil prices down in Europe? Oil tankers could still go to the mediteranian via the suez canal. This will not help asia, but I can imagine if it is too dangerous the go through bab al-mandab strait it is more lucrative to sell the crude oil to europe at a discount?

No. A cynic might think a significant part of this half-arsed Iran war was: - make sure fuel prices increase globally - The US economy is relatively well-shielded from the fallout by its own fossil fuel sources, local and in colonies like Venezuela. - export more US fossil fuels, especially to Europe, at inflated prices. US insiders reap the profits. - further kneecap European competitiveness in energy intensive sect…

You're missing a key part: energy prices in US go up too. It doesn't matter if US and its colonies are net producers.

Re: Houthis 'take control' of key island in global shipping route

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Post by frereubu » Fri, Sep 11, 2026, 2:58 PM UTC

tovej wrote: post #72

wat10000 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They always have. It's funny to see the evolution of language. Quotation marks indicated that something was a direct quote. Then people started to use them as a sarcasm indicator. Now we're to the point where people can't even recognize them as indicating a direct quote.

I think the parent was pointing out that Israel's or USA's claims are usually stated without quotes, such as: Israel invades Lebanon due to risk of Hezbollah attacks rather than: Israel says "risk of Hezbollah attacks" reason for invasion

Are there good examples of this from the BBC? Genuine question - no snark intended.

Re: Houthis 'take control' of key island in global shipping route

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Post by 27183 » Fri, Sep 11, 2026, 2:58 PM UTC

EGreg wrote: post #75

fofoz wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's so clever that he's probably even playing chess in a Hilbert space. The whole world envies American voters, who will receive $5,000 if they re-elect this incredible genius.

I think the "stable" in stable genius actually refers to the points of stability under transformations. Brower's fixed point theorem. Do your own research!

I heard if you inject yourself with bleach you can perceive the higher dimensions. Many people say this.

Re: Houthis 'take control' of key island in global shipping route

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Post by galangalalgol » Fri, Sep 11, 2026, 2:58 PM UTC

watwut wrote: post #57

markvdb wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. A cynic might think a significant part of this half-arsed Iran war was: - make sure fuel prices increase globally - The US economy is relatively well-shielded from the fallout by its own fossil fuel sources, local and in colonies like Venezuela. - export more US fossil fuels, especially to Europe, at inflated prices. US insiders reap the profits. - further kneecap European competitiveness in energy intensive sect…

I just dont think these guy are even capable to plan that much.

If you think so little of them, then imagine what the people who pay $5M for a meal with him can convince him to do. Or what people who pay his son-in-law/iran-negotiator 25M a year can call and ask him to do.

Re: Houthis 'take control' of key island in global shipping route

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Post by throwaway198846 » Fri, Sep 11, 2026, 2:58 PM UTC

alephnerd wrote: post #70

throwaway198846 wrote: post #64

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> Japan, and South Korea have continued operations in Iran that allowed them continued passage. 1.How do they pay Iran considering the sanctions? 2.Do you think EU shouldn't sanction Iran even though they violated NNPT and their terrible record on human rights because Iran can threaten them with a sufficient price? > a country that is a close ally of Israel Are they? They never sent a single weapon or soldier to help…

1. Waivers, state owned enterprises, shell corporations, barter trades, and using their own currencies for transactions 2. I agree. I'm just being prosaic as to why European states are in the pickle they are today. 3. They are closely entwined via logistics, but Cyprus would be an even closer Israel-Cyprus ties. The reality is, the Saudi-Turkiye-Kuwait-Pakistan alliance is a direct reaction to the Israel-Greece-Cypru…

I see, thank you for the prompt response, I think calling them close allies is overstating it.

Re: Houthis 'take control' of key island in global shipping route

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Post by sanderjd » Fri, Sep 11, 2026, 2:58 PM UTC

tovej wrote: post #72

wat10000 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They always have. It's funny to see the evolution of language. Quotation marks indicated that something was a direct quote. Then people started to use them as a sarcasm indicator. Now we're to the point where people can't even recognize them as indicating a direct quote.

I think the parent was pointing out that Israel's or USA's claims are usually stated without quotes, such as: Israel invades Lebanon due to risk of Hezbollah attacks rather than: Israel says "risk of Hezbollah attacks" reason for invasion

I'm unconvinced that this is a pattern that is distinguished by the nation being reported on. Headlines vary. Both of your example headlines might appear at different times in the outlets I read.

I think this was just a stylistic choice and that this whole thread is a weird tangent.