"I've got nothing to hide" and other misunderstandings of privacy • Hacker News Board

Re: "I've got nothing to hide" and other misunderstandings of privacy

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Post by teeja » Mon, Dec 24, 2012, 6:06 PM UTC

I see no reason to come up with examples apart from the US Gov's response to the massive Wikileaks cable publication. Ignore for a moment that some of the 'secrets' were about illegalities, and recognize that the US Gov has things it NEEDS to hide.

We all do, and anyone who says "if you have nothing..." is clearly naive about life. Back when the first teletype BBS's appeared, I pimped for having no passwords and a wide-open system. My plea was met with complete silence, and subsequently life schooled me in the whys and wherefores and wisdom of that silence. The first thing to know is: not everybody is your friend.

Re: "I've got nothing to hide" and other misunderstandings of privacy

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Post by napoleond » Mon, Dec 24, 2012, 6:32 PM UTC

bincat wrote: post #74

napoleond wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm working on something that I hope will turn back the tide somewhat: http://parley.co

I hope you can reveal more details of how you are going to accomplish what you've set out to do in the site. In general, technically minded people who care about privacy like to see these kinds of solutions in open source form or there will be heavy resistance to trust it.

Yup, more information will be up soon and all of our code will eventually be open sourced. There are no secrets to what we're doing at all, it's just a question of putting it all together in digestible form (and in the meantime--or any time at all--my email is in my profile and I'd be happy to hear from you).

The really sticky parts of Parley (ie. crypto) are already open source, made and reviewed by far greater minds than ours. We're mostly trying to solve the network problem that has impeded adoption of end-to-end email/IM encryption in the past by building a system that is ridiculously simple for anyone to use.

Re: "I've got nothing to hide" and other misunderstandings of privacy

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Post by diminoten » Tue, Dec 25, 2012, 12:33 AM UTC

dredmorbius wrote: post #76

diminoten wrote: post #57

Privacy, or a lack of it, requires an additional failure (corruption, or ignorance) to become a problem. So it's not privacy, it's ignorance and corruption we should fight for/against.

And yet, perfection in knowledge or execution of duties are impossible, so corruption and ignorance are givens.

Corruption isn't.