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Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended
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Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended
#82Just for reference, stuff like this is exactly why some people oppose the forced Apple/Google requirement in government systems like the new eIDs (eIDAS) in Europe. If you're forced to use Apple/Google for digital identification, playing around with your Google account and get it banned can have disproportional consequences. Suddenly you're locked out of all online government systems.
At that point, Google and Apple should be legally barred from fully banning you if it impedes you identifying yourself unless your account is hacked.
Google and Apple should be legally mandated to federate with nation state identity systems. This prevents them from revoking access, as the identity management is within nation state control vs big tech. You potentially have recourse with your government, you have no recourse with Google and Apple (current state). They may consume your identity for your benefit, but they may not control your digital identity. If a Big Tech company chooses to ban you, they should be required to provide you, at their cost, a copy of all of your data stored with them and report that they did so to a regulator.
I strongly doubt the US would mandate this, but could see the EU doing so. The technical primitives exist and implementation is straightforward. Without a law, this will not change, there is no incentive for it to change.
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#83> (from Twitter) ...My Google account too valuable to risk it impacted by Antigravity usage If your account is that valuable, it's time to consider moving to a self-hosted option. Or at the very least, start by purchasing a domain and linking it to your Google account, while keeping offline backups of all your emails and documents. The real problem isn't that Google might accidentally ban you; it's that there's no wa…
I used to use Gmail since beta, then moved out last year because of this kind of "situation".
Re: Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended
#84I cant even login via cli, also Gemini doesnt work.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
The government haven't noticed that email became as important as regular mail, unfortunately.
The government has a monopoly on regular mail though (at least in the US). Should email be treated as a utility?
Something like that. I think DNS registry system works pretty well under ICANN supervision: user isn't tied to a specific registrar.
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#87> The wording is confusing but the account in question is the Antigravity account. We will change the ToS wording here to make that clearer.
- Varun Mohan on the antigravity team
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#88This would have been a massive issue if Antigravity/Gemini were any good.
I don't appreciate but kinda understand that Anthropic can act arrogant with Fable. Google (shockingly) is really in no position for this.
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#89Banning the entire account rather than AI access is wildly user hostile. People have years of emails and calendars on their accounts. And then you get to fight the support bots and eventually go to the actual unofficial Google support - asking hn whether anyone knows someone with a pulse at Google.
Big companies are all becoming user hostile these days. They act like the customer is an inconvenience rather than a fundamental part of their business. Every interaction exudes this feeling that your primary role is to serve as an unwanted impediment to money flowing out of your bank account and into theirs.
And we are not in The Crash yet! Imagine how will they behave when they become desperate!
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#90That reminds me the story about closing family wide Google accounts, because of a kid, whose account was managed by Google Family Link, was sending naked selfies to Gemini https://www.pcworld.com/article/3104521/teenagers-gemini-mis...
fwiw, google said that didn't happen. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-account-bans-3654171... Not taking a side, but I remember that too and had looked later. That said, I deliberately don't trust any google services. Fastmail is great; you all should try it. Google capriciously bans accounts, so keep your email elsewhere.
There was that father who sent some naked pictures of his kid to a nurse for a consultation. Google flagged the account for CSAM and reported him to the authorities. Even after being cleared of all charges, Google refused to reinstate his account, so he lost his digital life.
Tried to use modern technology for the health of his son and was digitally executed for it.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/22/google-cs...