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Bhartrhari's Paradox

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Re: Bhartrhari's Paradox

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The claim is false. There is not a thing that cannot be given a name. If it is a thing, it can be given a name. You take that thing into the discourse and say, "let this thing be X", and now it has a name. What cannot be given a name cannot be discussed in any way; it is completely vague, undefined or ephemeral. The inability to name it is not what is at the core of not being able to pin it down; it is a byproduct or…

You didn't name the object when you said "let this thing be X"; you actually had already identified that "thing", and that process of identification was the process of naming it. You then defined some syntax ("X") and said that it was a name. But there are things for which you can't even say "let 'this thing' be…". For example, ZF proves that there are uncountably many reals. There are only countably many names, so t…

> that process of identification was the process of naming it.

No, it wasn't. Entities can be identified without being named, by relationships to other entities and class and such. That identification requires words. Not all denotational words and phrases constitute names.

Re: Bhartrhari's Paradox

#82

Bhartrihari was a king, philosopher, and poet. Scholars argue whether they were the same person or not, but I don't care, as scholars also argue about if Socrates really existed or not. He wrote 300 verses in Sanskrit. And they are on three different topics: sensuality and pleasure, policy and ethics, and finally renunciation. In Shringar Shatakam (100 verses on sensual pleasures), he writes: “Casting aside envy, con…

No one argues about whether Socrates really existed. He is attested by multiple writers of the time.

The debate is solely about how much the Socrates of Plato's dialogues represents the views of the historical figure.

Re: Bhartrhari's Paradox

#83
It's very easy to give examples. Often when someone coins a word, they are giving a name to something that previously had no name. Therefore the thing is an example of something that did not have a name prior to the coining.

Re: Bhartrhari's Paradox

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You didn't name the object when you said "let this thing be X"; you actually had already identified that "thing", and that process of identification was the process of naming it. You then defined some syntax ("X") and said that it was a name. But there are things for which you can't even say "let 'this thing' be…". For example, ZF proves that there are uncountably many reals. There are only countably many names, so t…

naming schemes can produce uncountably inf names

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