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Doctors are finally learning to manage antidepressant withdrawal

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Re: Doctors are finally learning to manage antidepressant withdrawal

#81

SSRIs not Benzodiazepines. Withdrawals from the later can be life-threatening if you abruptly stop after prolonged use.

"Prolonged" is not a long time either. You can be ensnared after just a couple weeks. And even a safe taper is still pretty hellish.

I had to wean off Klonopin, prescribed for a bout of COVID induced insomnia. Only on it for a month and it took a microgram taper and nine months to get off of completely. Had to go slow because the original recommended rate was wayyyyy too spicy for my central nervous system. Even at the slow rate I was going it was difficult to make it through life. Most doctors are unaware of how to deprescribe this shit safely.

Re: Doctors are finally learning to manage antidepressant withdrawal

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I am also shocked that every time an article about guitar playing is posted the sheer number of posters who play guitar themselves. I mean what are the chances?

I mean… are you saying this is effectively an SSRI forum?

Actually, you know what? Tracks.

Re: Doctors are finally learning to manage antidepressant withdrawal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Best way to manage the withdrawal would be to dramatically reduce them being prescribed in the first place. No, that will just hurt more people up front for longer. The truth is antidepressants have a larger effect on mental health than actually gets reported because of how improvements are measured. If you look at a patient who doesn't get out of bed, is in trouble at work/school for performance, doesn't spend soc…

The problem with the entire argument that you're making is that the natural rate of remission in uncomplicated major depressive episodes is very close to the rate that SSRIs create, individually, and very close in terms of timing. If you do something more like STAR-D you see higher rates, but that also takes so long that many people naturally remit.

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Re: Doctors are finally learning to manage antidepressant withdrawal

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To provide one additional anecdote: I came off escitalopram with no taper after taking it for about five years (10mg). I got brain zaps for a while, got very irritated at times, but largely was fine after a few weeks. Not downplaying the withdrawal effects for some people, but they’re not as catastrophic as this article suggests for many (perhaps most). And overall I’m very glad I took it! It got me through a rough p…

Is it possible for phobias to be treated with antidepressants or other medications? I need to look into this

Re: Doctors are finally learning to manage antidepressant withdrawal

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To provide one additional anecdote: I came off escitalopram with no taper after taking it for about five years (10mg). I got brain zaps for a while, got very irritated at times, but largely was fine after a few weeks. Not downplaying the withdrawal effects for some people, but they’re not as catastrophic as this article suggests for many (perhaps most). And overall I’m very glad I took it! It got me through a rough p…

Is it possible for phobias to be treated with antidepressants or other medications? I need to look into this

Sure seems like it to me, but my doctor seemed bemused when I mentioned it to him and I don't think they're routinely prescribed for them. I reckon if I'd have paired the SSRI with some exposure therapy, it would have cured me of it long-term. I do have an additional phobia however (I'd rather not say which) and it didn't make any impact on that at all, so YMMV.

Worth noting as well that I had no expectation of any changes to my arachnophobia going in. It didn't even cross my mind.

Re: Doctors are finally learning to manage antidepressant withdrawal

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To provide one additional anecdote: I came off escitalopram with no taper after taking it for about five years (10mg). I got brain zaps for a while, got very irritated at times, but largely was fine after a few weeks. Not downplaying the withdrawal effects for some people, but they’re not as catastrophic as this article suggests for many (perhaps most). And overall I’m very glad I took it! It got me through a rough p…

Withdrawal effects, like the beneficial effects, are highly individual. I had no withdrawal effects from escitalopram after being on it for a couple of years but I know people who’ve had the issues described in the article. This isn’t a one size fits all area of medicine.

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Re: Doctors are finally learning to manage antidepressant withdrawal

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I've taken antidepressants for years (20 mg prozac) and have sometimes tapered off them, restarting later. I can barely tell that I'm taking them, I feel 100% like myself on--and off of--them. I know they do something because when talking about difficult traumas with my therapist, if I'm not taking flouoxetine I will get choked up to the point I can't speak. That's the only difference I can perceive. My dose is not a "happy pill", it simply smooths out some extreme lows. Tapering off (a few weeks of 50% exponential declines) I've done because it's recommended, but again, I've never noticed any affect on mood before, during, or after.

after a number of years, a small dose of lithium (300mg) was recommended by a psychiatrist who stood apart (at least in that respect), and it was magic at mood stabilization, I never before even realized that I experienced hypomania (and I took it for anxiety), I just thought I was "bold".

(Lithium is not a drug, it's an element, taken as a metallic salt. It occurs naturally in the water in various parts of the world, and those populations have been studied and suffer lower rates of mental illness. My shrink said his recommendation was based in conjunction with the prozac I was taking, i.e. a known correlation. Bipolar II is a different mental condition than bipolar I, and somewhat slippery/loosely defined)

The extreme anecdotal stories people report online as in this forum strike me, an experienced but likewise only an anecdotal user, as more an artifact of underlying emotional distress rather than a result of the drugs.

I just wanted to contribute a different voice to this topic.

I should add, I do have "extra money" and am able to pay extremely qualified and expensive doctors, an option that is not available to everyone, including those with full public health services.

Re: Doctors are finally learning to manage antidepressant withdrawal

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To provide one additional anecdote: I came off escitalopram with no taper after taking it for about five years (10mg). I got brain zaps for a while, got very irritated at times, but largely was fine after a few weeks. Not downplaying the withdrawal effects for some people, but they’re not as catastrophic as this article suggests for many (perhaps most). And overall I’m very glad I took it! It got me through a rough p…

What seems most broken is that medicine apparently didn't have a great way to predict which group you’d fall into, or much of a plan for the people who had a really bad time stopping. Also, RIP the anti-spider benefits

Re: Doctors are finally learning to manage antidepressant withdrawal

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To provide one additional anecdote: I came off escitalopram with no taper after taking it for about five years (10mg). I got brain zaps for a while, got very irritated at times, but largely was fine after a few weeks. Not downplaying the withdrawal effects for some people, but they’re not as catastrophic as this article suggests for many (perhaps most). And overall I’m very glad I took it! It got me through a rough p…

It can be catastrophic if one is managing family life, kids, taking them to and from activities on top of one’s own work. Then come misc stresses like tax returns, some expensive home repair, etc. Also dealing with depression without the anti-depressant. Switching mental health medication is no fun. I am glad your experience was tolerable but it’s a whole arc and everyone’s tolerance + circumstances are unique which…

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