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Re: JetBrains Doomsday Sale - 75% off for 24 hours only

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Post by jonnii » Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 1:30 PM UTC

Damn, I was going to buy 5 team city agent licenses, but they're not on sale! =(

Re: JetBrains Doomsday Sale - 75% off for 24 hours only

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Post by brianchu » Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 1:31 PM UTC

I've been pretty satisfied with just using Eclipse and PyDev/Aptana Studio so far with Django. Any thoughts on the advantages of PyCharm?

Re: JetBrains Doomsday Sale - 75% off for 24 hours only

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Post by lhnz » Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 1:31 PM UTC

cowboyhero wrote: post #78

I downloaded a trial of PhpStorm last week, and loaded an old CodeIgniter project into it. The app flagged objects, methods, and variables that were created in other files as "undefined." I could see how that would be helpful under other circumstances, but does anyone know if PhpStorm is set up to play nice with most PHP frameworks? Also: For smaller projects, is there any advantage to buying a Python IDE over just u…

There is normally a little bit of setup to do in getting it to detect objects, methods, and variables. Normally I have to add some stuff into the libraries section. (Sometimes this doesn't work when there is a lot of indirection.)

It does play nicely with Zend and Silex (and other composer-style frameworks). I'm not sure about Symfony or CodeIgnitor.

I must say I really like PyCharm as a Python IDE. Tricked out vim is just too hard to install onto new machines, etc.

Re: JetBrains Doomsday Sale - 75% off for 24 hours only

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Post by ConstantineXVI » Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 1:34 PM UTC

mweibel wrote: post #47

blibble wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you install the JetBrains Python plugin into IDEA you get the same functionality as PyCharm, same with Ruby.

If I have pycharm - is it more or less the same when I install e.g. the Ruby plugin?

I believe only IntelliJ gets the other IDEs as plugins.

Re: JetBrains Doomsday Sale - 75% off for 24 hours only

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Post by robmcm » Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 1:35 PM UTC

speg wrote: post #72

Am I the only one who can't stand their interfaces? It looks terribly out of place on OS X (the icons, those tabs!). I don't know why it seems every app built on Java has to look like that.

There are some nice themes in the new one, but yes it's not up to the polish of XCode. However it does work very well...

Being cross platform has it's issues, see iTunes on PC? However Adobe seem to do a decent job, perhaps being a creative company helps.

Re: JetBrains Doomsday Sale - 75% off for 24 hours only

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Post by hamidpalo » Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 1:36 PM UTC

speg wrote: post #72

Am I the only one who can't stand their interfaces? It looks terribly out of place on OS X (the icons, those tabs!). I don't know why it seems every app built on Java has to look like that.

Using IntelliJ 12 with Darcula enabled with with a custom dark scheme, looks very nice actually.

Re: JetBrains Doomsday Sale - 75% off for 24 hours only

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Post by robmcm » Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 1:37 PM UTC

sparx wrote: post #63

sigzero wrote: post #44

Wow, this is great. My PyCharm upgrade is due and I might get the IDEA license too!

you could just purchase IDEA and install python/ruby/c++ plugins for free

If there is one thing they learn from this sale, it's that no one seems to understand what IDEA is, and how each product relates to each other!

Re: JetBrains Doomsday Sale - 75% off for 24 hours only

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Post by ConstantineXVI » Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 1:37 PM UTC

speg wrote: post #72

Am I the only one who can't stand their interfaces? It looks terribly out of place on OS X (the icons, those tabs!). I don't know why it seems every app built on Java has to look like that.

The Cocoa bindings for Java are deprecated; so "every app built on Java" _has_ to look like that.

I'd rather have a good and usable tool than a pretty one; instead of wasting time fighting unsupported bindings or trying to replicate them (likely poorly).

Re: JetBrains Doomsday Sale - 75% off for 24 hours only

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Post by sproketboy » Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 1:37 PM UTC

speg wrote: post #72

Am I the only one who can't stand their interfaces? It looks terribly out of place on OS X (the icons, those tabs!). I don't know why it seems every app built on Java has to look like that.

Yes, you are.

Re: JetBrains Doomsday Sale - 75% off for 24 hours only

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Post by hmottestad » Thu, Dec 20, 2012, 1:39 PM UTC

brianchu wrote: post #82

I've been pretty satisfied with just using Eclipse and PyDev/Aptana Studio so far with Django. Any thoughts on the advantages of PyCharm?

A friend says it's a lot nicer. I convinced him to try it because I use Intellij and love it. He now loves PyCharm.

Also, you can always give it a spin for free and see if you like it. I think just simple things like startup times and auto complete speed will make you want it.