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OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21)

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Re: OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21)

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Post by rootusrootus »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #45
eigenspace wrote: post #9

The fact that AI models can be so easily distilled and replicated is such a stroke of luck. 10 or 15 years ago if one had asked me to envision a future where a private company invents artificial intelligence, I'd have thought for sure they'd have a massive moat, be very difficult to catch, and it would create an almost instant monopoly. Rather, it seems that selling intelligence might end up as a race to the bottom.…

Altman specifically has said in an interview that I listened to once that he envisions AI being as cheap as electricity.

I hope it's a good bit cheaper than that, I pay close to $400/mo for electricity and I'm in no way interested in paying anything like that for AI.

Re: OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21)

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Post by inexcf »

mastercheif wrote: post #20
phoghed wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sun, Earth, Moon — it’s basically L/M/S like you want but a little less boring. Why is large better than medium to the average end user of ChatGPT though? I don’t think there’s a way to name these things that will satisfy everyone.

The naming schema actually tripped me up for a week or so. My brain's initial conception of the concepts was earth-relative, so I mapped it as: Sol = big, it's the sun Luna = medium, in-between sun and earth, space Terra = small, terrestrial

Pretty weird when the moon is as much between earth and sun as the earth is between the moon and the sun.

Re: OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21)

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Post by rootusrootus »

staticman2 wrote: post #40
make3 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well, a stroke of luck until the whole US stock market crashes & everyone's retirement funds get cut 40% I guess when people internalize this. it will have to happen sooner or later though I suppose

This is funny because the stock Market has been ahistorically high. My portfolio went up over 20 percent in the last 12 months. A major correction would be a bummer but we were never entitled to these abnormal gains in the first place.

Yeah the last year has been astonishing, my portfolio is kicking ass. But I'm 10 years out from retirement and I am pretty confident a correction is coming; I hope the correction happens soon.

Re: OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21)

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Post by missedthecue »

make3 wrote: post #27
eigenspace wrote: post #9

The fact that AI models can be so easily distilled and replicated is such a stroke of luck. 10 or 15 years ago if one had asked me to envision a future where a private company invents artificial intelligence, I'd have thought for sure they'd have a massive moat, be very difficult to catch, and it would create an almost instant monopoly. Rather, it seems that selling intelligence might end up as a race to the bottom.…

well, a stroke of luck until the whole US stock market crashes & everyone's retirement funds get cut 40% I guess when people internalize this. it will have to happen sooner or later though I suppose

The market (s&p500) crashing 40% puts us at levels we haven't seen since 2024, well into the creation of LLMs. Probably a worthwhile trade if it was either/or!

Re: OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21)

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Post by aliasxneo »

cyanydeez wrote: post #39
eigenspace wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd take a market crash over a monopoly in the hands of a ghoul like Altman. The economy he and his ilk want to build is infinitely worse.

America is pretty close to rhyming with nazi germany circa 1929.

Ok, I'll bite. What's your rationale?

Re: OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21)

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Post by rootusrootus »

ninjahawk1 wrote: post #25

Once they make a model better than Fable I’ll be switching to Codex. Their priorities in terms of consumers seem to be better. I do think Anthropic has some solid safety viewpoints, but I don’t necessarily think that either is entirely aligned yet with delivering exactly what humanity needs. Maybe the AI will help align the AI companies when it gets smart enough. That’s the real misalignment I’m concerned about.

It feels like 5.6-Sol is already fairly close to Fable, and in some ways exceeds it. Just the other day I had Fable draw up a solution for me, and then I fed it into 5.6-Sol and said how does this look ... it found an oversight and told me about it, and when I then fed that observation back into Claude it acknowledged the miss.

I've noticed also that 5.6-Sol is more concise with output than Fable (and let's not talk about Opus, which is even more wordy).

Re: OpenAI: GPT 5.6 Sol price reduction (until at least Nov 21)

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Post by matkoniecz »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #45
eigenspace wrote: post #9

The fact that AI models can be so easily distilled and replicated is such a stroke of luck. 10 or 15 years ago if one had asked me to envision a future where a private company invents artificial intelligence, I'd have thought for sure they'd have a massive moat, be very difficult to catch, and it would create an almost instant monopoly. Rather, it seems that selling intelligence might end up as a race to the bottom.…

Altman specifically has said in an interview that I listened to once that he envisions AI being as cheap as electricity.

Altman of *Open* AI? No idea why I would trust him without very convincing proof.
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