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Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

#81

I can only presume this regex is there because Google had to block various scammers trying to use email hosting donain names when novel TLDs came onto the market. You can try to manage gmail.zip or outlook.mov but Google will probably flag you as a scammer if you try to email from them. Just because web.de isn't well-known outside of German circles doesn't mean the risk doesn't exist. These email providers, especiall…

Thw regex on the frontend only makes zero sense though.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

#82

> 3.) Fictitious Domain Considerations: As you may know, domains that has ".web" have faced issues related to fictitious domain name usage. While ".one" is not ".web" the combination of the subdomain and TLD triggers similar security protocols. This is an LLM response. It's the classic pattern where the LLM says something completely unrelated to the topic at hand, realizes that it doesn't have a backspace key, and tr…

This doesn't make sense, even if the LLM had access to the source code

But yeah I kinda understand why would they want to block stuff with 'web'

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

#83

Crazy that .one gets locked, but .arpa is fully okay.

That's not going to pass the domain ownership validation though.

Not unless you happen to own 0.9.2.e164.arpa, 6.4.2.e164.arpa, and 7.4.2.e164.arpa: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49387570

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

#84

the last paragraph was probably most important one here, and the lesson is If you truly want to enforce a validation then it has to be in the backend, the client side validation is just additional luxury if you can afford it. On a different note, the validations were added for genuine reasons and most likely there would be some discussions/debate on the scope/cost/benefits. I would imagine if some one were to do it a…

In this case I think the validation is the next step when they ask you to set up a DNS record on the domain you typed in, and have their system match it.

Obviously if you typed Outlook.com this would be a challenge for you.

Unfortunately that may mean a support ticket and explanation and whatnot, and wasted time. Charitably, it might even mean the customer experiencing friction and going to another provider.

So in this case, front ending it seems to make a bit of sense, it’s just really clumsily done.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

#85

Google has a computer making decisions that affect humans, and then they then have humans defending the decisions a computer did. We live in a dystopia. I hope "Karen" sees the irony in the day job she is doing. A COMPUTER CAN NEVER BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER MAKE A MANAGEMENT DECISION. —IBM, 1979

Technically not allowed in the EU. Will probably take several more years before they get fined a few hundred million again.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

#86

Since the author asked about Alice: it was an Internet provider in France in the early 2000's. Some domains in that list are truly ancient. That was a trip down memory lane.

same in italy btw, it was an italian provider with some european presence, since then they rebranded (several times actually)

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

#88
post #85

Google has a computer making decisions that affect humans, and then they then have humans defending the decisions a computer did. We live in a dystopia. I hope "Karen" sees the irony in the day job she is doing. A COMPUTER CAN NEVER BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER MAKE A MANAGEMENT DECISION. —IBM, 1979

Technically not allowed in the EU. Will probably take several more years before they get fined a few hundred million again.

Google will present multipe bogus reasons, such as:

1) it is not automated

2) the user consented

3) subjecting oneself to automated processing is a hard requirement

while in reality

1) a human rubberstamping the decision does not make it non-automated

2) coerced or forced consent via ToS and a checkbox is not consent

3) automated processing is not a requirement, just a business decision.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

#89
"I was curious what would happen if I disabled this function, so I did, and I was happy to find out that once disabled, I was able to continue the sign-up process for my domain successfully. That means that this was only a frontend validation, not a server-side one."

This is so stupid.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

#90

> 3.) Fictitious Domain Considerations: As you may know, domains that has ".web" have faced issues related to fictitious domain name usage. While ".one" is not ".web" the combination of the subdomain and TLD triggers similar security protocols. This is an LLM response. It's the classic pattern where the LLM says something completely unrelated to the topic at hand, realizes that it doesn't have a backspace key, and tr…

Strongly doubt that a LLM would say "domains that has .web". Maybe it's a human paraphrasing a LLM.
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