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Seven books I keep close because I love them

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Re: Seven books I keep close because I love them

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Post by ejtaal3 »

vehemenz wrote: post #66
dev_dan_2 wrote: post #59

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That is quite a bold claim you make there! Since you seem to hold a strong conviction, could you please make more explicit what concretely one would not know / missinterprete regarding the Western culture, not knowing anything about those concepts you listed, but knowing the bible itself back and forth? And to what excent one would need to dive deep into those concepts? Or in other words: What fundamental concepts in…

My convictions are pretty hollow because I'm demonstrating the pointlessness--or arbitrariness, if you like--of gatekeeping the ranks of the "well-educated," as the author tries to do here.

Well played sir, well played :)

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Post by madcaptenor »

jabl wrote: post #18

We read some passages from Decameron back in high school. Lovely book really, I should take the time to really read it cover to cover.

I tried to read it at the height of the pandemic, inspired by the plague framing, and couldn't get into it. Might be time to give it another shot.

Re: Seven books I keep close because I love them

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Post by madcaptenor »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #26
bbkane wrote: post #25

> For example, Moses is easy to recognize at lower right, because of the glowing horns I'm sorry, what? Why is Moses depicted with glowing horns?

Yeah, I thought he was easily recognizable because he's holding stone tablets. But apparently it is a thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horns_of_Moses > The Horns of Moses are an iconographic convention common in Latin Christianity whereby Moses was presented as having two horns on his head, later replaced by rays of light.[1] The idea comes from a translation, or mistranslation, of a Hebrew term in Jerome's Latin…

He didn't carry the stone tablets around all the time.

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Post by agaj-nimm »

1123581321 wrote: post #43
ivrit-tirvi wrote: post #29

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I always look it up in the original Hebrew if I really want to understand, and the difference is sometimes really HUGE (or simply wrong in modern translations). It's also worth noting that some books of the Hebrew Bible are poetry (Psalms, Job, Proverbs, Song of Songs), which doesn't show at all after translation. Hebrew poetry is unique! As they say, reading the Bible in translation is like "kissing your spouse thro…

Through a glass darkly, if you will. :)

Have you read Patton's poem by that title? It's not great but it's a fascinating window into the beliefs of a major historical figure.

In my experience there's a lot of support for reincarnation in judeo-christian scripture, when you read it open to that interpretation.

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Post by jibal »

Ardren wrote: post #58
ivrit-tirvi wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always look it up in the original Hebrew if I really want to understand, and the difference is sometimes really HUGE (or simply wrong in modern translations). It's also worth noting that some books of the Hebrew Bible are poetry (Psalms, Job, Proverbs, Song of Songs), which doesn't show at all after translation. Hebrew poetry is unique! As they say, reading the Bible in translation is like "kissing your spouse thro…

> I always look it up in the original Hebrew if I really want to understand Why do you assume a entire team of biblical scholars, working for years to translate the Old Testement for the NIV didn't know what they were doing? But you do?

> Why do you assume a (sic) entire team of biblical scholars, working for years to translate the Old Testement (sic) for the NIV didn't know what they were doing?

That assumption does not appear anywhere in their comment.

Your rude strawman question only makes sense if assuming that ivrit-tirvi is not a fluent speaker of Hebrew and is somehow translating the Hebrew into something else that they understand ... which is quite unlikely, since ivrit (עִבְרִית) is the Hebrew word for the English word "Hebrew".

And the NIV translation into English reflects ideological interpretation that one can avoid by reading the original Hebrew if one understands it.

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Post by euthymiclabs »

dougb5 wrote: post #53
cryzinger wrote: post #32

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I've never owned a copy of Roget's, and now I'm curious/tempted to get one, but my go-to digital word picking assistant has always been OneLook Thesaurus: https://www.onelook.com/thesaurus/

Hey, I'm the developer of OneLook. I'm so glad to see it here! The concept clusters on the site are directly inspired by Roget's work. Like the author, I see a thesaurus less as a synonym dictionary and more as what the word literally means, a storehouse of treasure. I'm in the midst of a long-overdue data refresh across OneLook right now, so I'd be curious to hear your feedback once it's done.

Very cool. This will likely become my default digital source. Much more extensive than the other online options. I still prefer the discrete clustering of Roget's, but this blows away anything else I've found.

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cvoss wrote: post #35

> knowing full well that [Delilah] will betray [Samson] It is not clear from the text that Samson is aware of the presence of Philistines the first three times. We are told they are lying in ambush in an inner chamber. We are not told that they make themselves known, attempt to subdue Samson, or interact with him in any way. Instead, we are told that Delilah announces their imminent presence, with no follow-through.…

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